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How likely is every NFL stadium to host WrestleMania? An investigation
With the announcements of WrestleManias 37, 38, and 39, some users were critical of WWE selecting the same venues every year. Every WrestleMania since 23, with the exception of three in Orlando (two at the Citrus Bowl/Camping World Stadium and one at the Performance Center due to COVID-19), has been held at an NFL stadium. As something of an NFL stadium expert, I decided to examine each NFL stadium's likelihood of hosting a future WrestleMania. Please note that some stadiums are located just outside of the city limits listed, but I listed the major city most associated with it (so for instance, while AT&T Stadium is technically in Arlington, it hosts the Dallas Cowboys, so I listed Arlington.) I'm also giving WWE a significant benefit of the doubt and assuming they'd be interested in hosting a Mania outside of their usual go-tos.
Allegiant Stadium, Las Vegas, NV - Stadium Profile: A $1.9 billion stadium opened in 2020 to house the newly-moved Las Vegas Raiders. Starting in 2021, it will host the Pro Bowl, Las Vegas Bowl, and the Pac-12 Championship Game. As of yet, it has not hosted any fans. It has a capacity of 65,000.
- City Profile: Las Vegas is the 28th biggest metro area in the US. Las Vegas previously hosted WrestleMania IX in a temporary arena built at Caesars Palace, and the recently-built T-Mobile Arena hosted 2016 Money in the Bank and 2018 Elimination Chamber.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Very high. I'm honestly surprised it didn't host one of the next three Manias given its attractive location and massive new stadium. I suspect it will host one very soon in the future.
Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO - Stadium Profile: Arrowhead is the third-oldest stadium in the NFL, having been built in 1972. It had a renovation completed in 2010 and seats 76,416. It's known for its incredibly-loud fans, as they currently hold the world record for loudest crowd at 142.2 decibels.
- City Profile: Kansas City is the 31st biggest metro area in the US. Kansas City has hosted four PPVs, most notably 1999 Over the Edge with the death of Owen Hart and most recently 2010 Money in the Bank.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. Arrowhead's age and Kansas City being a smaller market (and not an attractive vacation destination) mean that Missouri won't be hosting WrestleMania any time soon.
AT&T Stadium, Dallas, TX - Stadium Profile: "Jerryworld", a pioneer in the billion-dollar stadium craze, opened in 2009 with a listed capacity of 80,000, though it can hold up to 100,000 for special events like WrestleMania and the Super Bowl, which it hosted in 2011. It also hosts the annual Cotton Bowl game.
- City Profile: Dallas is the 4th largest metro area in the US. Dallas hosted WrestleMania 32 at AT&T Stadium and most recently hosted 2017 Great Balls of Fire.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Confirmed, as it will host WrestleMania 38 next year. I suspect this will not be the last.
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC - Stadium Profile: A largely no-frills stadium, Bank of America Stadium was built in 1996 and has a seating capacity of 75,523. In addition to hosting the Charlotte Panthers, it will host Charlotte FC starting in 2022 and has hosted an NCAA bowl game since 2002 and the ACC Championship Game most years since 2010. Though it was renovated in 2017 (and soccer renovations are currently underway), Panthers ownership has expressed a desire for a new stadium.
- City Profile: Charlotte is the 22nd biggest metro area in the US. Nearby Charlotte Coliseum hosted 2019 Clash of Champions, its first PPV in 13 years, and nearby Greensboro has been considered one of wrestling's hotbeds.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low. If memory serves, Charlotte was floated as a potential Mania site, but unless they get a new stadium I don't see this nearly as likely as more attractive Southeast locations like Atlanta or Florida.
Bills Stadium, Buffalo, NY - Stadium Profile: The NFL's fourth-oldest stadium, the former Ralph Wilson Stadium houses 71,608. It was the site of the first NHL Winter Classic in 2008 as the Buffalo Sabres hosted the Pittsburgh Penguins.
- City Profile: Buffalo is the 49th biggest metro area in the US. The last PPV Buffalo hosted was 2013 Battleground.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. With many bigger cities nearby and an aging stadium, Buffalo will never host a WrestleMania. Sorry, Bills Mafia.
Empower Field at Mile High, Denver, CO - Stadium Profile: Replacing the historic-but-aging Mile High Stadium in 2001, Empower Field seats 76,125. Notably, 84,000 were in attendance on the last night of the 2008 Democratic National Convention for Barack Obama's acceptance speech.
- City Profile: Denver is the 19th biggest metro area in the US. The nearby Pepsi Center has only hosted one PPV - 2003 Vengeance.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. Denver's high altitude doesn't do it any favors, but WWE has been hesitant to run Denver in the past and I suspect with shinier stadiums out West, it will not do so here.
FedExField, Washington, DC (stadium located in Landover, MD)
- Stadium Profile: Once the NFL's largest stadium, FedExField opened in 1997 and currently has a capacity of 82,000. Many upper-level seats were blockaded off in 2011. Even in 2007, Sports Illustrated rated it fourth-lowest in "NFL Fan Value Experience".
- City Profile: Washington is the 6th biggest metro area in the US. Capital One Arena hosted 2005 SummerSlam, 2009 Survivor Series, and most recently 2016 Battleground, but also hosted the inaugural episode of AEW Dynamite.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. A DC 'Mania might sound attractive, but FedExField's unpopularity will keep it off WWE's list. Nationals Park could be an option if WWE chooses to downsize.
FirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH - Stadium Profile: Sitting on Lake Erie's shore, the "Factory of Sadness" opened in 1999 to host the second incarnation of the Cleveland Browns. It has a capacity of 67,431.
- City Profile: Cleveland is the 34th biggest metro area in the US. It hosted Fastlane in both 2016 and 2019 and also hosted SummerSlam in 1996.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. I'm cold just thinking about late March in Cleveland.
Ford Field, Detroit, MI - Stadium Profile: Built in 2002 as a downtown replacement to the Pontiac Silverdome, Ford Field seats 65,000. It's hosted a bowl game every year since its opening and also hosted Super Bowl XL.
- City Profile: Detroit is the 14th biggest metro area in the US. The Pontiac Silverdome was the site of perhaps the most famous WrestleMania (III), and Ford Field hosted WrestleMania 23 twenty years later. Detroit has also hosted several PPVs, most recently 2017 Hell in a Cell.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low. Though WWE has run WrestleMania in Detroit twice in the past, that it has not done so in nearly 20 years seems to indicate it's looking at newer stadiums and more attractive locations.
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA - Stadium Profile: Wedged between Boston and Providence, Gillette Stadium was built in 2002 as a replacement to the aging Foxboro Stadium. It seats 65,878 and hosts the New England Patriots as well as the MLS's New England Revolution.
- City Profile: Boston is the 11th largest metro area in the US. The FleetCenter, now TD Garden, hosted WrestleMania XIV and has hosted several other Big 4 PPVs. It last hosted 2017 Clash of Champions.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. An indoor Boston stadium might be more attractive, but the cold weather serves as a major detriment, especially with NYC nearby.
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami, FL - Stadium Profile: Opened in 1987, the stadium with 11 different names seats 65,326. It's home to the Miami Dolphins, University of Miami football team, and the Orange Bowl game and formerly housed the Florida Marlins baseball team. Amid deterioration, it underwent a massive overhaul in 2015.
- City Profile: Miami has hosted 6 Super Bowls, 5 College Football National Championships, and WrestleMania XXVIII with Miami native The Rock headlining. However, its last PPV was 2013 Hell in a Cell.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Medium. The new stadium overhaul has made it an attractive location for other high-profile events, but WWE seems to have other Florida venues in mind. Perhaps they'll be back to Miami in the coming years.
Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA - Stadium Profile: Opened in 2001 along with next-door PNC Park as a replacement to Three Rivers Stadium, Heinz Field seats 68,400. Its open south end has made it one of the toughest places for kickers. It's also hosted two NHL games: the 2011 Winter Classic and 2017 Stadium Series.
- City Profile: Pittsburgh is the 27th largest metro area in the US. It was home to perhaps the most famous match in WWE history, Undertaker vs. Mankind's Hell in a Cell match in 1998. It also hosted the 2014 Royal Rumble and most recently 2018 Extreme Rules.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. As much as I'd love to see a WrestleMania in my home city of Pittsburgh, it's not exactly the biggest destination city in the world, and WWE seems to have shunned Pittsburgh from high-profile events after several negative crowd responses.
Lambeau Field, Green Bay, WI - Stadium Profile: The NFL's second-oldest stadium, Lambeau Field - named after Packer great Curly Lambeau - opened in 1957. Though single-bowled for most of its life, it added an upper deck at the south endzone in 2013. Most of its 81,441 seats are bleachers.
- City Profile: Green Bay is the 158th biggest metro area in the US. It has never hosted a PPV, though Milwaukee has hosted several, most recently 2017 Fastlane.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. Maybe negative.
Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, CA - Stadium Profile: Home to the San Francisco 49ers (though San Francisco is about an hour drive north), Levi's Stadium opened in 2014 and holds 68,500. Its large glass press box has led to criticism for making the stadium too bright and hot during the daytime. Levi's hosted Super Bowl 50, WrestleMania 31, and the 2015 NHL Stadium Series.
- City Profile: San Francisco is the 12th biggest metro area in the US, and San Jose is the 35th biggest metro area in the US. San Francisco has never hosted a PPV (likely to change in the coming years with the opening of the Chase Center). San Jose hosted the 1998 Royal Rumble, 2001 SummerSlam, and most recently 2018 TLC.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Very low. With the opening of SoFi Stadium ensuring multiple WrestleManias in California in the coming decades, accompanied with poor reception to the stadium and to The Undertaker having to make a daytime entrance, WWE probably won't be back to Levi's.
Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA - Stadium Profile: Opened in 2003, "The Linc" sits in Philadelphia's famed Philadelphia Sports Complex in the same location as classic venues Veterans Stadium and The Spectrum. Lincoln Financial Field seats 69,796, and in addition to the Philadelphia Eagles and Temple Owls is the usual host of the Army-Navy Game.
- City Profile: Philadelphia is the 8th biggest metro area in the US. Perhaps wrestling's most notorious crowd thanks in part to it being the home of ECW, Philadelphia has hosted a number of high-profile events over the years including WrestleMania XV, the 2015 and 2018 Royal Rumbles, and most recently 2019 Extreme Rules.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low to medium. Philadelphia has been floated as a WrestleMania city before, and though it's not the best climate in early spring, you'd have to imagine a WrestleMania crowd in a normally-raucous city would be a sight (and sound) to behold.
Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN - Stadium Profile: Indy sure does love its indoor stadiums. After the Colts moved into the Hoosier Dome (later RCA Dome) in 1984, they opened the retractable-roof Lucas Oil in 2008 with a capacity of 67,000. It's also the host of the Big Ten Championship Game, Super Bowl XLVI, and given Indy's status as a college basketball hub, will host at minimum two Final Fours in the future (2021 and 2026).
- City Profile: Indianapolis is the 33rd biggest metro area in the US. The Hoosier Dome hosted WrestleMania VIII in 1992 and has since hosted a SummerSlam, a Survivor Series, and most recently 2016 Clash of Champions. It's also known to wrestling fans as the city where The Shield was formed in 2012 and where they broke up in 2014.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low. While a beautiful stadium, Lucas Oil hasn't brought in as many events as Indianapolis surely hoped, in part due to its small market.
Lumen Field, Seattle, WA - Stadium Profile: Built in 2002 as a replacement to the literally-crumbling Kingdome, the former Qwest and CenturyLink Field holds a nice 69,000. Known for its triangular end zone stand and loud fans known as the "12th Man", it houses the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle Sounders.
- City Profile: Seattle is the 15th largest metro area in the US. Next-door Safeco Field, home to the Mariners, hosted WrestleMania XIX in 2003, and KeyArena has only hosted two PPVs (most recently 2011 Over the Limit), though a major overhaul to the venue will likely change this once WWE resumes touring.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Very low. Safeco Field was WWE's venue of choice in 2003, and while it could be an attractive Rumble target in the coming years, I suspect Lumen won't be on their list.
M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD - Stadium Profile: Home to the Baltimore Ravens, it opened in 1998 with a capacity of 71,008. Its most notable feature is its jumbotrons sandwiched between its upper and lower bowls. It's also hosted several Army-Navy games.
- City Profile: Baltimore is the 21st largest metro area in the US. Baltimore has hosted several PPVs, most recently 2017 Extreme Rules.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. Though Royal Farms Arena is a common stop on WWE's touring schedule, M&T Bank is surely way low on the list of potential WrestleMania stadiums as it hasn't even been seriously considered in years past.
Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA - Stadium Profile: Jokingly nicknamed "Megatron" due to its distinctly-shaped exterior and retractable roof, Mercedes-Benz Stadium opened in 2017 at a cost of $1.6 billion and seats 71,000. It hosts the Falcons, Atlanta United, the Peach Bowl, Super Bowl LII, and will surely host more Super Bowls and NCAA championships (both football and basketball).
- City Profile: Atlanta is the 9th biggest metro area in the US and is also home to the world's busiest airport. Atlanta was the host of the 1996 Summer Olympics. The now-demolished Georgia Dome hosted WrestleMania XXVII, and Phillips Arena most recently hosted 2015 Survivor Series.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Extremely high. The only thing I see as a detraction is WWE being petty about TNT getting back in the wrestling business. Otherwise, this massive, futuristic stadium would be a perfect WrestleMania host.
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans, LA - Stadium Profile: One of the most famous stadiums in sports, the Superdome (brother) opened in 1975, though it is currently undergoing a massive renovation. It seats 73,208 and has hosted seven Super Bowls (scheduled for #8 in 2025), two WrestleManias, five Final Fours, and is the annual home of the Sugar Bowl.
- City Profile: New Orleans is the 45th biggest metro area in the US, though it's become a cultural hub. WrestleMania 34 was the last PPV hosted in the city.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: High. WWE has hosted here twice before, and a massive renovation will continue to make it an attractive target.
MetLife Stadium, New York, NY (located in East Rutherford, NJ)
- Stadium Profile: Located across the river from the heart of New York City, MetLife Stadium opened in 2010 as home of both the Giants and Jets and seats 82,500. Its price tag of $1.6 billion made it at the time the most expensive stadium in the US. It's hosted two WrestleManias (29 and 35) and is the only open-air northern city to host the Super Bowl.
- City Profile: What else is there to say about New York? It's the largest metro area by far, it's a massive cultural hub, and in wrestling context has hosted many of wrestling's most memorable events including six WrestleManias.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Medium to high. NYC always has to be on the list when hosting large events, and given WWE has been to MetLife twice, you'd have to think they're willing to go again. The massive downside is the intense difficulty some fans had with leaving the stadium, although that's something that can be remedied with a little better planning.
Nissan Stadium, Nashville, TN - Stadium Profile: Opened in 1999 to house the newly-christened Tennessee Titans, Nissan Stadium seats 69,143 and is also host to the annual Music City Bowl. It will be the centerpiece of a Nashville street circuit coming to the IndyCar calendar in 2021.
- City Profile: Nashville is the 36th largest metro area in the US. Nashville last hosted 2014 Night of Champions, although a house show under the name "Smackville" was aired on the WWE Network in 2019.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Very low. I don't want to say zero, but this is as close to zero as it gets. Memphis is by far the more popular wrestling destination in the state, but it doesn't have a stadium capable of hosting a modern 'Mania.
NRG Stadium, Houston, TX - Stadium Profile: Built in 2002 to house the expansion Houston Texans, the Astrodome's spiritual successor houses 72,220. It's hosted two Super Bowls, two Final Fours, and is also on the schedule to host another Final Four and a College Football National Championship. NRG, then Reliant Stadium, hosted WrestleMania XXV.
- City Profile: Houston is the 5th largest metro area in the US. In addition to XXV, the Astrodome - despite no longer having any tenants - hosted WrestleMania X-Seven, often regarded as the best WrestleMania (and possibly the best WWE PPV ever). Houston has hosted numerous PPVs, including the 2020 Royal Rumble at Minute Maid Park and several other Big 4s.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low. Though the Toyota Center is a common PPV host, Dallas seems to be the preferred destination in the state for WrestleMania. Still, NRG holds its weight, and perhaps it'll get another WrestleMania down the line.
Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH - Stadium Profile: Like many cookie-cutters of the 70s, Riverfront Stadium was replaced by two stadiums; Paul Brown, opened in 2000, was the first, and it seats 65,515. An odd quirk in the contract with the city states that Cincinnati must pay for anything that 10 other NFL stadiums have, including holographic replays.
- City Profile: Cincinnati is the 30th biggest metro area in the US. As it is not home to an NBA or NHL team, the outdated US Bank Arena hasn't hosted much for WWE, only 2006 Cyber Sunday and 2018 Starrcade (a rebranded house show).
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None. As highly of Moxley speaks of it, Cincinnati isn't a wrestling hub by any stretch, nor is it a big enough market to justify a high-profile event.
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, FL - Stadium Profile: Opened in 1998, this stadium seats 65,890 and has been home to the Outback Bowl, two Super Bowls (it'll host its third later this month), and the 2017 College Football National Championship. Its most prominent feature is a giant pirate ship that fires its cannons when the home Buccaneers score.
- City Profile: Tampa is the 18th largest metro area in the US. It hosted a few Big 4s decades ago, but prior to COVID last hosted 2014 Battleground. Sister city St. Petersburg will end up hosting several upcoming PPVs as it is the second home of the WWE Thunderdome.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Confirmed, as it will host WrestleMania later this year as a make-good for the Mania scrapped last year due to COVID-19. I'll admit that I was surprised to see Tampa on the schedule, and I can't imagine it'll come back after this year.
SoFi Stadium, Los Angeles, CA - Stadium Profile: LA residents, I feel bad that you're on the hook for the $5 billion price tag of this megaplex that houses the Rams and Chargers. Opened last fall, it seats 70,420 on game day but can be expanded to over 100,000. It will also be the epicenter of the 2028 Summer Olympics and will likely be a major part of the 2026 FIFA World Cup. It also has next year's Super Bowl and 2023's College Football National Championship on its radar. Incidentally, it has yet to host fans.
- City Profile: Los Angeles is the 2nd biggest metro area in the US. It's been home to numerous Big 4s including 3 WrestleManias (a fourth if you count nearby Anaheim) and was the regular host of SummerSlam for years.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Confirmed, as it is the host of WrestleMania 39 (pushed back from 37, presumably to allow California ample time to recover from COVID-19). It was intentionally over-built for high-profile events like WrestleMania, and I'm confident they will be back for many more.
Soldier Field, Chicago, IL - Stadium Profile: One of the classic sports venues, Soldier Field was built in 1924 but didn't host the Bears until 1971. A National Historic Landmark until 2002, it was delisted to allow the seating bowl to be gutted and rebuilt. Its signature Roman columns now reside at the stadium's gate.
- City Profile: Chicago is the 3rd biggest metro area in the US. It's a popular site of Big 4s, but it's hosted just two WrestleManias, both in arenas (2 and 22). It most recently hosted 2019 Survivor Series. Most WWE shows are held not in the United Center but instead at the Allstate Arena in nearby Rosemont.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Very low. I have to say I'm surprised Chicago's not hosted WrestleMania in so long given how raucous its crowds are and given Chicago's giant market. However, Soldier Field is not the most advanced stadium in the world, and WWE seems to like warmer buildings.
State Farm Stadium, Phoenix, AZ - Stadium Profile: At the time of its opening in 2006, State Farm was perhaps the highest-tech stadium ever built. It notably features not just a retractable roof but a retractable field, allowing its Bermuda grass to get some sunlight. It's also hosted a Super Bowl, 3 College Football National Championships, and a Final Four, with another Super Bowl and Final Four coming in the next few years.
- City Profile: Phoenix is the 10th biggest metro area in the US. Phoenix's first PPV was 2003 SummerSlam and it's hosted many since, including WrestleMania XXVI and most recently the 2019 Royal Rumble at Chase Field.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Low. You'd think if WWE were headed back to Glendale, it would've done so by now. Once the most high-tech stadium in America, its successes have since been duplicated by countless others.
TIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL - Stadium Profile: Do I really have to do this one? Jacksonville Municipal Stadium was built in the 1930s, but it was overhauled in 1995 to welcome the expansion Jacksonville Jaguars, who are owned by the Khan family - the same family that owns AEW. It's also hosted Super Bowl XXXIX.
- City Profile: Jacksonville is the 40th biggest metro area in the US. Without a NBA or NHL team, it's hosted just one PPV: 2007 One Night Stand.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: None, as long as AEW is around.
US Bank Stadium, Minneapolis, MN - Stadium Profile: Built in 2016 as a replacement to the Metrodome and seating 66,655, US Bank's distinct exterior was built to resemble a viking ship. In its short life so far, it's already hosted a Super Bowl and a Final Four.
- City Profile: Minneapolis is the 16th biggest metro area in the US. Minneapolis hosted 1999 SummerSlam andlast hosted 2019 TLC. Surprisingly, the Metrodome never hosted WrestleMania.
- Likelihood of hosting WrestleMania: Medium to high. US Bank Stadium is a technological marvel, but Minneapolis is far from the most attractive location.
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- Suzuki TT Superbikes: $4
- Red Faction: $3
- SOCOM 3: Navy Seals: $4
- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory: $14
- World Championship Poker: $2
- Tiger Woods PGA 2002: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06: $3
- Trivial Pursuit Unhinded: $3
- 2x Medal of Honor Frontline and Risining Sun: both for $10 shipped per lot of 2
- Warriors of Might and Magic: $5
- Godai Elemental Force: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08: $3
- Hitman 2: Silent Assassin: $4
- MLB 2004: $2
- 2x MLB 2005: $5 each
- Minority Report: $3
- Kingdom Hearts: $6
- Ford Racing 2: $7
- ATV Offroad Fury: $3
- Tak and the Guardians of Gross: $7
- Tom Clany's Splinter Cell: $5
- 2x Dragon Ball Z Budokai: $8 each
- Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood: $3
- NBA 2K7: $5
- Smackdown! Vs. Raw (Greatest Hits): $8
- MVP Baseball 2004: $3
- 2x Madden 2002: $2 each
- Hard Hitter Tennis (Movie Gallery Rental Version): $15 (Price very negotiable, couldn't find any comparisons due to it being a Movie Gallery Rental Version)
- Nascar 06: $4
- MLB 09 The Show: $2
- Madden 2003: $2
- NBA Live 09: $2
- Nascar 09: $7
- High Heat MLB: $4
- NCAA March Madness 2003: $2
- Jeremy McGrath Supercross World: $3
- Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2: $7
- Simpsons Skateboarding: $15 shipped
- ATV Offroad Fury: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004: $5
- NHL 2002: $2
- Bionicle Heroes: $5
- Alter Echo: $5
- Triple Play Baseball: $3
- Alias: $4
- Madden 2001: $2
- PS2 Controllers
- Gray Controller: $10
- Blue Controller: $13
- Purple Viper 2 Controller: $10
- Translucent Wired Controller: $10
- Wireless Controller: I can't test it so it's free plus shipping
- Sly Cooper PS2 Prima's Official Strategy Guide - $50 shipped
PS2 - Disk Only: - Playstation Magazine Issue 71 Disk: $8
- Playstation Magazine Issue 71 Disk: $8
- Playstation Magazine Issue 76 Disk: $4, all three Playstation Magazine disks for $20 shipped
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance: $3
- Sonic Riders - Zero Gravity: $12 shipped
- Sega Superstars Tennis: $3
- Horsez: $2
- Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - The Angel of Darkness: $3
- Tomb Raider III: The Adventures of Lara Croft: $3
- Conflict Desert Storm: $1
- Ready to Rumble Boxing: $3
- Celebrity Deathmatch: $4
- Starsky and Hutch: $1
- World Championships Cards: $1
- NBA Lifestyle 2003: $1
- NBA 2K2: $2
- MLB 2K5: $1
- MLB 07 The Show: $1
- MLB 06 The Show: $1
- Backyard Baseball: Play with the Pros as Kids!: $2
- Triple Play Baseball: $2
- MVP Baseball 2004: $2
- SOCOM US Navy Seals: $1
- Socom 3 US Navy Seals: $1
- Superbike World Championship (SBK): $2
- Summer Athletics: The Ultimate Challenge: $1
- Stuntman Ignition: $1
- Madden 06: $1
- Madden 07: $1
- Madden NFL 08: $2
- Madden NFL 06: $1
- Madden NFL 2005: $1
- Madden NFL 07: $1
- Madden 2004: $1
- NFL Gameday 98: $2
- Gretzky NHL 06: $2
- NHL 2K6: $2
- Ratatouille: $3
- 007: Everything or Nothing: $3
- 007 Nightfire: $8 shipped
- 007: Quantum of Solace: $3
- Gran Turismo 3: $1
- Motocross Mania: $1
- Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball Max’d: $2
- Out of the Chute: $3
- Nicktoons Unite!: $3
- Burnout 2 Point of Impact: $3
- Corvette Evolution GT: $1
- MotoGP 3: $3
- Battlefield 2 Modern Combat: $1
- Bad Boys Miami Takedown: $1
- Happy Feet: $2
- Motor Storm Arctic Edge: $4
- Backyard Football 09: $2
- Dancing with the Stars: $1
- Call of Duty: Finest Hour: $2
- NCAA March Madness 2004: $1
- Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: $4
- Dormax 2: Dance Dance Revolution: $2
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2001: $1
- G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra: $3
PS3 Games: - Lost Planet 2 (Disk Only, in GameStop case): $5
- Legendary: $7
- 2x Assassin's Creed: $3 each
- 3x Assassin's Creed III PS3: $3 each
- Rage: $4
- Infamous: $4
- Beowulf the Game: $4
- L.A. Noire: $10
- The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: $13 shipped
- Pro Evolution Soccer 2013: $13
- Killzone 2: $3
- Call of Duty Black Ops II (No Manual): $10
- Call of Duty: MW3 (Disk Only): $3
- Call of Duty 4 Modern Warefare: $3
- Batman Arkham Asylum: $4
- Darksiders: $10 shipped
- Uncharted Drake's Fortune: $3
- Uncharted 2: $3
- 2x Uncharted 3: $3 each
- Tomb Raider (Disc Only in GameStop case): $4
- The Last of Us (Disc Only): $4
- Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway: $6
- Red Dead Redemption: $10
- Red Dead Redemption (Disc Only): $5
- The Amazing Spiderman 2: $20
- Batman: Arkham Asylum: $4
- The Godfather II: $13
- Monopoly: $13
- GTA IV (4) (Disc Only): $4
- GTA V (5): $10
- Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations: $4
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08: $4
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12 Masters: $7
- MLB 07 The Show: $3
- MLB 10 The Show: $3
- MLB 12 The Show: $2
- NBA 2k8: $2
- Madden 07: $5
- Madden 08: $4
- Madden 10: $2
- Madden 12: $3
- Madden 13: $2
- Madden 15: $3
- Madden 25: $4
- NHL 09: $2
PS4 Games: - Star Wars Battlefront Deluxe Edition: $9 (Includes Magmatrooper Galactic Connexion)
- Battlefield Hardline BNIB (Sealed): $18 shipped
- Need for Speed Payback: $7
- PlaystationVR Demo Disk 3: $5
GBA Games: - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: $5
- Rugrats: Castle Capers: $5
- Pac Man Collection: $9 shipped
- Mario Vs Donkey Kong: $20 shipped
Loose DS/3DS Games: - Lego Star Wars III (3DS): $5
- LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean (3DS): $4
- Authentic Pokemon Heartgold (DS): $110 shipped with insurance
- LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (DS): $3
- LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga (DS): $6
- Zhu Zhu Pets (DS) and Zhu Zhu Puppies (DS): $3.50 for both
- 2x Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (DS): $3 each
- Harry Potter Years 1-4 (DS): $4
- Mario Party DS (DS): $12 shipped
- Spider Man: Web of Shadows (DS): $10 shipped
- 2x Mario Vs Donkey Kong Mini Land Mayhem (DS): $10 shipped each
- Crafting Mama (DS): $8 shipped
- Let’s Play Garden (DS): $2
- Cooking Mama (DS): $12 shipped
- 2x Moshi Monsters: Moshling Zoo and Moshi Monsters Theme Park (DS): $2 for each lot of two
- Namco Museum (DS): $7 shipped
- Drama Queen (DS): $2
- Satisfashion: Rock the Runway (DS): $1
- Lovely Lisa and Friends (DS): $2
- iCarly (DS): $1
- Style Lab: Jewelry Design (DS): $1
- Petz Fashion Dogz & Cats (DS): $1
- Barbie Horse Adventure (DS): $5 shipped
- Phineas and Ferb (DS): $2
- Carnival Games (DS): $3
- Power Rangers Samurai (DS): $7 shipped
- TMNT (DS): $5
- Monster Jam: Path of Destruction (DS): $2
- DaGeDar (DS): $3
- Cars 2 (DS): $3
- Madagascar Kartz (DS): $3
- Nickolodeon Team Umizoomi (DS): $10
- Scooby Doo and the Spooky Swamp (DS): $11
- New Super Mario Bros (DS): $9
- Mario Kart (DS): $10
- Guitar Hero: On Tour (DS): $3
- Wiffle Ball (DS): $1
- Crash of the Titans (DS): $10
- 2x Up (DS): $2 each
- FIFA 08 (DS): $3
- Showtime Championship Boxing (DS): $3
- Asphalt 2 (DS): $4
- 2x Carnival Games (DS): $2 each
- Goosebumps Horrorland (DS): $8
- Tony Hawk’s Motion (DS): $3
- Harlem Globetrotters World Tour (DS): $3
- Cooking Mama 3: Shop and Chop (DS): $10
- Monster High Ghoul Spirit (DS): $3
- Little plastic DS cartridge cases (3x for now but I think have more somewhere): $0.50 each
CIB 3DS/DS Games and Others (CIB unless stated otherwise): - Pictures (Some pictured have sold, but anything still listed with prices here is still available)
- Dogs and Cats: Best Friends (DS): $3
- Zhu Zhu Puppies: $3
- Jewelry Design (DS): $2
- Up (DS): $4
- Wipeout The Game (DS): $3
- Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (DS): $8
- World Championship Games: A Track and Field Event (DS): $5
- Cars 2 (3DS): $11 shipped
- New Super Mario Bros 2 (3DS) (No Manual): $20 shipped
- Angry Bird Star Wars (3DS) (No Manual): $4
- LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (3DS): $5
Gamecube Games: (All CIB unless otherwise stated) - Pictures
- Backyard Football (Disk only, in GameStop case): $3
- Madden NFL 05: $2
- Madden NFL 07: $3
- All Stars Baseball 2002: $4
- NHL 2005: $3
- MVP Baseball 2004 (Disc Only): $4
Wii Games and Items: (All Games CIB unless otherwise stated) - Wii Fit Balance Board: $15 local pickup in MA or $15 plus shipping (can bundle with Wii Fit for another $3 or Wii Fit Plus for another $5)
- Wii Fit Balance Board in Box: $18 or $18 plus shipping (can bundle with Wii Fit for another $3 or Wii Fit Plus for another $5)
- Wii UDraw Tablet (Untested atm): $5
- Wii MotionPlus Adapter Authentic - Brand New In Box, Sealed: $27
- Link's Crossbow training with 2 Wii Zappers/Guns: $25
- Just Dance: $7
- Just Dance 2: $5
- Just Dance 3 Best Buy Exclusive: $7
- Just Dance 3 Target Exclusive: $7
- Guitar Hero: World Tour: $8
- Disney Infinity (No Manual): $4
- Disney Sing It: $3
- Cooking Mama: Cook Off: $6
- Wii Fit: $5
- Wii Sports Resort: $30
- Wall-E: $4
- Despicable ME - The Game: $4
- We Ski: $4
- Wipeout The Game: $3
- Winter Sports - The Ultimate Challenge: $6
- Angry Birds Trilogy: $12
- Deca Sports: $6
- SimCity Creator: $4
- Gummy Bears: Magical Medallion: $4
- Cars (Disk Only, in GameStop Case): $10 shipped
- Monster Trucks Mayhem: $4
- Dragon Flame: Wrath of Fire: $3
- Wii Sports (Disk Only): $20 shipped
- 2x Wii Play: $6 each
- Wipeout The Game: $5
- The Price is Right: $7
- Country Dance: $15
- Cardio Workout: $5
- Carnival Games: Mini-Golf: $15
- Sims 3: $6
- Indiana Jones Staff of Kings Wii: $7
- James Bond 007: Quantum of Solace: $6
- LEGO Batman 2: $6
- WWE All Stars: $12
- WWE '12: $6
- Guitar Hero III Legends of Rock: $15
- Happy Feet: $4
- Fantasy Aquarium World: $6
- Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs: $6
- Deadrising Chop Until you Drop: $5
- Medal of Honor Vanguard: $3
- Resident Evil 4: $7
- Star Wars Force Unleashed II: $10
- Call of Duty World At War: $5
- Mountain Sports: $7
- New Carnival Games: $11
- Super Mario Galaxy: $27
- Wipeout The Game: $4
- Shaun White Snowboarding - Road Trip: $3
- WeSki & Snowboard: $17
- Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two: $5
- Thrillville Off The Rails: $4
- SpongeBob Squarepants: Robotic Revenge: $8
- LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Sage: $6
- The Smurfs Dance Party: $3
- Skylanders Giants: $3
- Skylanders Trap Team: $3
- Go Diego Go Safari Rescue (CIB) and Go Diego Go Great Dinosaur Rescue (Disk Only): (*Both discs do not work!! Need resurfacing) $2 plus shipping for both (the case and manual of Safari Rescue with the not-working Safari Rescue and Dinosaur discs)
Wii U Skylanders Figures/Accessories: - Cynder (Giants): $4
- Drill Sergeant (Giants): $3
- Drobot (Spyro's Adventure): $3
- Gill Grunt (Giants): $3
- Bouncer (Giants): $4
- Hot Head (Giants): $4
- Fright Rider (Giants): $3
- Jet Vac (Giants): $4
- Shroomboom (Giants): $4
- Eruptor (Giants): $4
- Sonic Boom (Giants): $3
- Prism Break (Giants): $3
- Tree Rex (Giants): $3
- Snap Shot (Trap Team): $3
- Food Fight (Trap Team): $3
- Traptanium Portal: $10
- Skylanders Giants Portal: $8
- Skylanders Spyro's Adventure Zipper Carry Bag: $10
PC: - Family 6 Pac Volume 1: $10 shipped
- Driver: You Are The Wheelman: $9 shipped
- I Spy Fantasy (Complete): $6
- I Spy Fantasy (Disc Only): $4
- Centipede: $4
- Sins of a Solar Empire: Game of the Year Edition: $10
- Company of Heroes: $5
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06: $6
- Battlezone PCGamer: $12
- Sid Meier's Civilization IV (Disc 1, Disc 2, and Manual): $5
- Sid Meier's Civilization IV GOTY Edition: $12
- Cossacks II: Battle for Europe: $10
- Sim Earth: $9
- SimAnt (Disc Only): $4
- Arthur's 2nd Grade (Both Discs): $5
- Air Hogs RC Flight Simulator (Disc Only): $9
- Stanley's Sticker Stories (Disc Only): $1
- Golden Books Interactive Encyclopedia (Disc Only): $1
- Ultimate Writing and Creativity Center (Disc Only): $5
- Jump Start Math, Explorers, and Reading (3 Disc Lot): $25
- Fairly OddParents: Breakin' Da Rules (Disc Only): $9
- Reader Rabbit Phonics and Ages 6-9 (2 Disc Lot): $10
- Edu Science (Disc Only): $3
- Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? (Disc Only): $5
- Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores the Human Body and Animals (2 Disc Lot): $10
- My First Amazing History Explorer: $3
- Explorers Of the New World: $2
- Richard Scarry's Best Reading Program and How Things World in Busytown (2 Disc lot) $30 shipped
- NHL 2001: $4
- Madagascar: $5
VR: - View Master Virtual Reality: Space Experience Pack: $5
Other Items: - Mind Food Surfing PC (Disc Only): $2
- VDWL-G120 D-Link Airplus G Wireless USB Adapter (Disc Only): $2
- Microsoft Office 2000 Professional (Disc Only): $5
- Legends Of Wrestemania Official Strategy Guide - Xbox 360, PS3: $13 shipped
- Mystery Quest: Curse of the Ancient Sprits (DS, Case and Manual only): $2
- Large DS Carry/Travel Case (Dark Blue): $ 7plus shipping
- Game Boy Advance Case (Black with Pink outline): $15 shipped
- Mini NES with 2 Controllers: $120 shipped
- White Wii with original Gray Stand.(no wires or controllers): $65 shipped with choice of any game listed above that's $5 or less
- Red Wii with Wires, Sensor Bar, Installed Excitebike, and 1 Authentic Controller and Nunchuck: $100 shipped with choice of any game listed above that's $5 or less
- Crimson DS Lite with Charger (No Stylus or GBA Slot Cover): $45 shipped
- White 200GB Xbox 360 with Power Cord and 1 Authentic Controller (HDMI Compatible but no HDMI cord included): $75 shipped
Please note: I cannot test the VR game because I don't have a phone that works with it, but if you purchase an untested game and it doesn't work you'll receive a refund for the item.
As far as sealed Pokémon TCG product goes, I’m open to anything since my sealed collection’s pretty small rn, but mainly things 2016 or newer. Also potentially interested in full arts (i.e. FA Stoutland, not FA GXs) from Cosmic Eclipse that are valued at $10 or under.
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[USA] [H] Xbox/Xbox 360/Wii/Wii U/GC/GBA/DS/3DS/PS1-4/PC, Skylanders, and More [W] PayPal
Hey! All of the prices are OBO, so feel free to make an offer, especially if you're interested in multiple games! Shipping'll depend on the weight of everything you're interested in, but on average it'll be between $3 and $5. I’ll take photos for you upon interest of games.
I ship ASAP! I may have accidentally forgotten to denote some CIB games missing manuals, but if you express interest I’ll check and take pictures and let you know.
Xbox: - Tony Hawk's Underground Platinum Hits (Game and Case, No Manual): $7
- Shrek 2: $5
- 2x X-Men Legends: $5 each
- Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay: $12
- 3x Pirates of the Caribbean: $9 each
- Fable: The Lost Chapters: $12 shipped
- LA Rush: $4
- Midnight Club II: $4
- Monster Garage: $3
- The Incredibles: $10 shipped
- Syberia: $6
- Deus Ex: Invisible War: $3
- Hulk: $10 shipped
- Superman Returns: $10 shipped
- Disney's The Haunted Mansion: $10 shipped
- Big Mutha Truckers: $5
- Dance Dance Revolution II: $3
- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: $4
- Lara Croft Tomb Raider: Legend: $12 shipped
- Enclave: $4
- Top Spin: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003: $3
- Madden 07: $4
- Call of Duty 3: $4
- Skate 3: $4
- Doom 3 Limited Collectors Edition Steelbook (Steelbook is a bit rusted): $10
Xbox 360 Games/Items: - Authentic Black Wireless Controller: $13
- Kinect: $13
- Kinect Adventures: $2
- Kinectimals (Black Case): $8
- Kinectimals (Purple Case): $9
- Tropico 3 Demo Disk 107 (Official Xbox Magazine Edition): $10 shipped
- Splinter Cell Conviction Demo Disk 111 (Official Xbox Magazine Edition): $10 shipped
- The Bourne Conspiracy Demo Disk 85 (Official Xbox Magazine Edition): $11 shipped
- IL 2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Demo Disk 102 (Official Xbox Magazine Edition): $12 shipped
- Borderlands Demo Disk 103 (Official Xbox Magazine Edition): $12 shipped
- Grand Theft Auto IV: $5
- Batman: Arkham City (Disk only, in GameStop Case): $4
- Race Pro (Disk only, in GameStop Case): $4
- Mafia II (Disk Only): $7
- Borderlands Game of the Year Edition: $10
- Call of Duty: Black Ops (No Manual): $9
- Call of Duty: World At War: $5
- Call of Duty: Modern Warefare 2 (Disk Only): $3
- 2x Call of Duty: Modern Warefare 2: $5 each
- 4x Call of Duty Modern Warefare 3: $6 each
- Call of Duty: Ghosts: $5
- Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter: $4
- Gears of War (Disc only, in GameStop Case): $3
- Gears of War 3 (Disk only, in GameStop case): $3
- Madden NFL 08: $4
- Madden NFL 09: $3
- Madden NFL 10: $3
- Madden NFL 11 (Disk Only): $1
- Madden NFL 12: $3
- Madden NFL 25: $5
- NHL 08: $4
- NHL 11: $3
- NHL 13: $3
- NBA 2K9: $3
- NBA 2K13: $4
- NBA 2K14: $4
- NBA 2K15: $5
- 2x FIFA Soccer 11: $4 each
- FIFA Soccer 12: $3
- FIFA Soccer 15: $4
- Gears of War (Platinum): $9 shipped
- The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: $9 shipped
- The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (basic case): $8 shipped
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08: $4
- Xbox Live Arcade Compilation Disc: $4
- 2x Sega Superstars Tennis: $4 each
- 3x Sega Superstars Tennis and Xbox Live Arcade: $6 each
- 2x Madden 09: $3 each
- Dead Island (Disc only in GameStop case): $3
- Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2: $3
- Dead Rising 2: $6
- Skylanders Swap Force (Not For Sale Version): $4
- Skylanders Giants (Not For Sale Version): $4
- Call of Duty 4 Modern Warefare: $3
- Battlefield 3: $3
- Assassin's Creed Platinum Hits: $7
- Assassin's Creed III: $4
- Assassin's Creed Revelations: $3
- Power Gig: Rise of the SixString: $2
- Tron: Evolution: $4
- Halo Reach: $12
- 2x Halo 3: $9 each
- Halo 4: $3
- Brink: $3
- Bioshock: $7
- Wolfenstein: $12
- Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts: $10
- Dark Souls II (No Manual): $7
- Rockband 2: $9
- The Beatles Rockband: $9
- Red Dead Redemption: $9
- NBA 2k10 (Disc only, in GameStop case): $5
PS1: PS2 Games (not loose) and Items: - Soul Calibur II: $8
- Sonic Unleashed: $10
- 2x Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3: $9 each
- Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4: $6
- Kingdom Hearts: $6
- Medal of Honor Rising Sun and Medal of Honor Frontline: $10 shipped for both
- Greg Hastings Paintball Tournament (Case and Game, no Manual): $3
- Silent Scope 2: Dark Silhouette (Disc and Manual only): $3
- Backyard Baseball (Alex Rodriguez): $8
- NHL 07: $4
- Thrillville Off The Rails: $6
- Shaun White Snowboarding: $6
- Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone: $45
- MLB 2006: $3
- Madden 07: $3
- Splashdown: $5
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance: $6
- Spiderman: $8
- Star Wars III Revenge of the Sith: $5
- Tekken 5: $18
- MLB 2K5: $3
- 2x World Championship Cards: $3 each
- Wheel of Fortune: $3
- Shrek Super Slam: $5
- 3x GTA III: $4 each
- Final Fantasy X-2: $5
- SnoCross 2: $3
- 4x4 Evolution: $5
- Ferrari F355 Challenge: $9 plus shipping (or $12 shipped)
- Cocoto Fishing Master: $3
- Adventures of Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius: Jet Fusion: $8
- 2x GTA Vice City: $9 each
- Shrek The Third: $5
- Madden 2005 Collector's Edition: $8
- Gran Turismo 4 PS2: $8
- Max Payne: $7
- Syphonfilter: The Omega Strain: $5
- Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader (Sealed): $15 shipped
- Ferrari Challenge: $12 shipped
- Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty: $7
- Curious George: $12
- Ace Combat 4: Shattered Strike: $3
- Sonic Unleashed: $10
- NBA Live 06: $3
- Terminator Dawn of Fate: $4
- Biathlon 2008: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005: $3
- ESPN International Track & Field: $3
- SOCOM US Navy Seals: $4
- 2x Mojo: $3 each
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07: $4
- 2x God of War: $9 each
- Tokyo Extreme Racer Drift 2: $12 shipped
- Eighteen Wheeler: American Pro Trucker: $3
- Suzuki TT Superbikes: $4
- Red Faction: $3
- SOCOM 3: Navy Seals: $4
- Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory: $14
- World Championship Poker: $2
- Tiger Woods PGA 2002: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06: $3
- Trivial Pursuit Unhinded: $3
- 2x Medal of Honor Frontline and Risining Sun: both for $10 shipped per lot of 2
- Warriors of Might and Magic: $5
- Godai Elemental Force: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08: $3
- Hitman 2: Silent Assassin: $4
- MLB 2004: $2
- 2x MLB 2005: $5 each
- Minority Report: $3
- Kingdom Hearts: $6
- Ford Racing 2: $7
- ATV Offroad Fury: $3
- Tak and the Guardians of Gross: $7
- Tom Clany's Splinter Cell: $5
- 2x Dragon Ball Z Budokai: $8 each
- Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood: $3
- NBA 2K7: $5
- Smackdown! Vs. Raw (Greatest Hits): $8
- MVP Baseball 2004: $3
- 2x Madden 2002: $2 each
- Hard Hitter Tennis (Movie Gallery Rental Version): $15 (Price very negotiable, couldn't find any comparisons due to it being a Movie Gallery Rental Version)
- Nascar 06: $4
- MLB 09 The Show: $2
- Madden 2003: $2
- NBA Live 09: $2
- Nascar 09: $7
- High Heat MLB: $4
- NCAA March Madness 2003: $2
- Jeremy McGrath Supercross World: $3
- Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2: $7
- Simpsons Skateboarding: $15 shipped
- ATV Offroad Fury: $3
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004: $5
- NHL 2002: $2
- Bionicle Heroes: $5
- Alter Echo: $5
- Triple Play Baseball: $3
- Alias: $4
- Madden 2001: $2
- Sly Cooper PS2 Prima's Official Strategy Guide - $50 shipped
PS2 - Disk Only: - Playstation Magazine Issue 71 Disk: $8
- Playstation Magazine Issue 71 Disk: $8
- Playstation Magazine Issue 76 Disk: $4, all three Playstation Magazine disks for $20 shipped
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance: $3
- Sonic Riders - Zero Gravity: $12 shipped
- Sega Superstars Tennis: $3
- Horsez: $2
- Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - The Angel of Darkness: $3
- Tomb Raider III: The Adventures of Lara Croft: $3
- Conflict Desert Storm: $1
- Ready to Rumble Boxing: $3
- Celebrity Deathmatch: $4
- Starsky and Hutch: $1
- World Championships Cards: $1
- NBA Street Vol 2: $17 shipped
- NBA Lifestyle 2003: $1
- NBA 2K2: $2
- MLB 2K5: $1
- MLB 07 The Show: $1
- MLB 06 The Show: $1
- Backyard Baseball: Play with the Pros as Kids!: $2
- Triple Play Baseball: $2
- MVP Baseball 2004: $2
- SOCOM US Navy Seals: $1
- Socom 3 US Navy Seals: $1
- Superbike World Championship (SBK): $2
- Summer Athletics: The Ultimate Challenge: $1
- Stuntman Ignition: $1
- Madden 06: $1
- Madden 07: $1
- Madden NFL 08: $2
- Madden NFL 06: $1
- Madden NFL 2005: $1
- Madden NFL 07: $1
- Madden 2004: $1
- NFL Gameday 98: $2
- Gretzky NHL 06: $2
- NHL 2K6: $2
- Ratatouille: $3
- 007: Everything or Nothing: $3
- 007 Nightfire: $8 shipped
- 007: Quantum of Solace: $3
- Gran Turismo 3: $1
- Motocross Mania: $1
- Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball Max’d: $2
- Out of the Chute: $3
- Nicktoons Unite!: $3
- Burnout 2 Point of Impact: $3
- Corvette Evolution GT: $1
- MotoGP 3: $3
- Battlefield 2 Modern Combat: $1
- Bad Boys Miami Takedown: $1
- Happy Feet: $2
- Motor Storm Arctic Edge: $4
- Backyard Football 09: $2
- Dancing with the Stars: $1
- Call of Duty: Finest Hour: $2
- NCAA March Madness 2004: $1
- Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: $4
- Dormax 2: Dance Dance Revolution: $2
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2001: $1
- G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra: $3
PS3 Games: - Lost Planet 2 (Disk Only, in GameStop case): $5
- Legendary: $7
- 2x Assassin's Creed: $3 each
- 3x Assassin's Creed III PS3: $3 each
- Rage: $4
- Infamous: $4
- Beowulf the Game: $4
- L.A. Noire: $10
- The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: $13 shipped
- Pro Evolution Soccer 2013: $13
- Killzone 2: $3
- Call of Duty Black Ops II (No Manual): $10
- Call of Duty: MW3 (Disk Only): $3
- Call of Duty 4 Modern Warefare: $3
- Batman Arkham Asylum: $4
- Darksiders: $10 shipped
- Uncharted Drake's Fortune: $3
- Uncharted 2: $3
- 2x Uncharted 3: $3 each
- Tomb Raider (Disc Only in GameStop case): $4
- The Last of Us (Disc Only): $4
- Brothers In Arms: Hell's Highway: $6
- Red Dead Redemption: $10
- Red Dead Redemption (Disc Only): $5
- The Amazing Spiderman 2: $20
- Batman: Arkham Asylum: $4
- The Godfather II: $13
- Monopoly: $13
- GTA IV (4) (Disc Only): $4
- GTA V (5): $10
- Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations: $4
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08: $4
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12 Masters: $7
- MLB 07 The Show: $3
- MLB 10 The Show: $3
- MLB 12 The Show: $2
- NBA 2k8: $2
- Madden 07: $5
- Madden 08: $4
- Madden 10: $2
- Madden 12: $3
- Madden 13: $2
- Madden 15: $3
- Madden 25: $4
- NHL 09: $2
PS4 Games: - Star Wars Battlefront Deluxe Edition: $9 (Includes Magmatrooper Galactic Connexion)
- Battlefield Hardline BNIB (Sealed): $18 shipped
- Need for Speed Payback: $7
- PlaystationVR Demo Disk 3: $5
GBA Games: - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: $5
- Rugrats: Castle Capers: $5
- Pac Man Collection: $9 shipped
- Mario Vs Donkey Kong: $20 shipped
Loose DS/3DS Games: - Lego Star Wars III (3DS): $5
- LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean (3DS): $4
- Authentic Pokemon Heartgold (DS): $110 shipped with insurance
- LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes (DS): $3
- LEGO Star Wars: Complete Saga (DS): $6
- Zhu Zhu Pets (DS) and Zhu Zhu Puppies (DS): $3.50 for both
- 2x Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (DS): $3 each
- Harry Potter Years 1-4 (DS): $4
- Mario Party DS (DS): $12 shipped
- Spider Man: Web of Shadows (DS): $10 shipped
- 2x Mario Vs Donkey Kong Mini Land Mayhem (DS): $10 shipped each
- Crafting Mama (DS): $8 shipped
- Let’s Play Garden (DS): $2
- Cooking Mama (DS): $12 shipped
- 2x Moshi Monsters: Moshling Zoo and Moshi Monsters Theme Park (DS): $2 for each lot of two
- Namco Museum (DS): $7 shipped
- Drama Queen (DS): $2
- Satisfashion: Rock the Runway (DS): $1
- Lovely Lisa and Friends (DS): $2
- iCarly (DS): $1
- Style Lab: Jewelry Design (DS): $1
- Petz Fashion Dogz & Cats (DS): $1
- Barbie Horse Adventure (DS): $5 shipped
- Phineas and Ferb (DS): $2
- Carnival Games (DS): $3
- Power Rangers Samurai (DS): $7 shipped
- TMNT (DS): $5
- Monster Jam: Path of Destruction (DS): $2
- DaGeDar (DS): $3
- Cars 2 (DS): $3
- Madagascar Kartz (DS): $3
- Nickolodeon Team Umizoomi (DS): $10
- Scooby Doo and the Spooky Swamp (DS): $11
- New Super Mario Bros (DS): $9
- Mario Kart (DS): $10
- Guitar Hero: On Tour (DS): $3
- Wiffle Ball (DS): $1
- Crash of the Titans (DS): $10
- 2x Up (DS): $2 each
- FIFA 08 (DS): $3
- Showtime Championship Boxing (DS): $3
- Asphalt 2 (DS): $4
- 2x Carnival Games (DS): $2 each
- Goosebumps Horrorland (DS): $8
- Tony Hawk’s Motion (DS): $3
- Harlem Globetrotters World Tour (DS): $3
- Cooking Mama 3: Shop and Chop (DS): $10
- Monster High Ghoul Spirit (DS): $3
- Little plastic DS cartridge cases (3x for now but I think have more somewhere): $0.50 each
CIB 3DS/DS Games and Others (CIB unless stated otherwise): - Pictures (Some pictured have sold, but anything still listed with prices here is still available)
- Dogs and Cats: Best Friends (DS): $3
- Zhu Zhu Puppies: $3
- Jewelry Design (DS): $2
- Up (DS): $4
- Wipeout The Game (DS): $3
- Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (DS): $8
- World Championship Games: A Track and Field Event (DS): $5
- Cars 2 (3DS): $11 shipped
- New Super Mario Bros 2 (3DS) (No Manual): $20 shipped
- Angry Bird Star Wars (3DS) (No Manual): $4
- LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens (3DS): $5
Gamecube Games: (All CIB unless otherwise stated) - Pictures
- Backyard Football (Disk only, in GameStop case): $3
- Madden NFL 05: $2
- Madden NFL 07: $3
- All Stars Baseball 2002: $4
- NHL 2005: $3
- MVP Baseball 2005 (Disc Only): $4
Wii Games and Items: (All Games CIB unless otherwise stated) - Wii Fit Balance Board: $15 local pickup in MA or $15 plus shipping (can bundle with Wii Fit for another $3 or Wii Fit Plus for another $5)
- Wii Fit Balance Board in Box: $18 or $18 plus shipping (can bundle with Wii Fit for another $3 or Wii Fit Plus for another $5)
- Wii UDraw Tablet (Untested atm): $5
- Wii MotionPlus Adapter Authentic - Brand New In Box, Sealed: $27
- Link's Crossbow training with 2 Wii Zappers/Guns: $25
- Just Dance: $7
- Just Dance 2: $5
- Just Dance 3 Best Buy Exclusive: $7
- Just Dance 3 Target Exclusive: $7
- Guitar Hero: World Tour: $8
- Disney Infinity (No Manual): $4
- Disney Sing It: $3
- Cooking Mama: Cook Off: $6
- Wii Fit: $5
- Wii Sports Resort: $30
- Wall-E: $4
- Despicable ME - The Game: $4
- We Ski: $4
- Wipeout The Game: $3
- Winter Sports - The Ultimate Challenge: $6
- Angry Birds Trilogy: $12
- Deca Sports: $6
- SimCity Creator: $4
- Gummy Bears: Magical Medallion: $4
- Cars (Disk Only, in GameStop Case): $10 shipped
- Monster Trucks Mayhem: $4
- Dragon Flame: Wrath of Fire: $3
- Wii Sports (Disk Only): $20 shipped
- 2x Wii Play: $6 each
- Wipeout The Game: $5
- The Price is Right: $7
- Country Dance: $15
- Cardio Workout: $5
- Carnival Games: Mini-Golf: $15
- Sims 3: $6
- Indiana Jones Staff of Kings Wii: $7
- James Bond 007: Quantum of Solace: $6
- LEGO Batman 2: $6
- WWE All Stars: $12
- WWE '12: $6
- Guitar Hero III Legends of Rock: $15
- Happy Feet: $4
- Fantasy Aquarium World: $6
- Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs: $6
- Deadrising Chop Until you Drop: $5
- Medal of Honor Vanguard: $3
- Resident Evil 4: $7
- Star Wars Force Unleashed II: $10
- Call of Duty World At War: $5
- Mountain Sports: $7
- New Carnival Games: $11
- Super Mario Galaxy: $27
- Wipeout The Game: $4
- Shaun White Snowboarding - Road Trip: $3
- WeSki & Snowboard: $17
- Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two: $5
- Thrillville Off The Rails: $4
- SpongeBob Squarepants: Robotic Revenge: $8
- LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Sage: $6
- The Smurfs Dance Party: $3
- Skylanders Giants: $3
- Skylanders Trap Team: $3
- Go Diego Go Safari Rescue (CIB) and Go Diego Go Great Dinosaur Rescue (Disk Only): (*Both discs do not work!! Need resurfacing) $2 plus shipping for both (the case and manual of Safari Rescue with the not-working Safari Rescue and Dinosaur discs)
Wii U Skylanders Figures/Accessories: - Cynder (Giants): $4
- Drill Sergeant (Giants): $3
- Drobot (Spyro's Adventure): $3
- Gill Grunt (Giants): $3
- Bouncer (Giants): $4
- Hot Head (Giants): $4
- Fright Rider (Giants): $3
- Jet Vac (Giants): $4
- Shroomboom (Giants): $4
- Eruptor (Giants): $4
- Sonic Boom (Giants): $3
- Prism Break (Giants): $3
- Tree Rex (Giants): $3
- Snap Shot (Trap Team): $3
- Food Fight (Trap Team): $3
- Traptanium Portal: $10
- Skylanders Giants Portal: $8
- Skylanders Spyro's Adventure Zipper Carry Bag: $10
PC: - Family 6 Pac Volume 1: $10 shipped
- Driver: You Are The Wheelman: $9 shipped
- I Spy Fantasy (Complete): $6
- I Spy Fantasy (Disc Only): $4
- Centipede: $4
- Sins of a Solar Empire: Game of the Year Edition: $10
- Company of Heroes: $5
- Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06: $6
- Battlezone PCGamer: $12
- Sid Meier's Civilization IV (Disc 1, Disc 2, and Manual): $5
- Sid Meier's Civilization IV GOTY Edition: $12
- Cossacks II: Battle for Europe: $10
- Sim Earth: $9
- SimAnt (Disc Only): $4
- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: $7
- Arthur's 2nd Grade (Both Discs): $5
- Air Hogs RC Flight Simulator (Disc Only): $9
- Stanley's Sticker Stories (Disc Only): $1
- Golden Books Interactive Encyclopedia (Disc Only): $1
- Ultimate Writing and Creativity Center (Disc Only): $5
- Jump Start Math, Explorers, and Reading (3 Disc Lot): $25
- Fairly OddParents: Breakin' Da Rules (Disc Only): $9
- Reader Rabbit Phonics and Ages 6-9 (2 Disc Lot): $10
- Edu Science (Disc Only): $3
- Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? (Disc Only): $5
- Scholastic's The Magic School Bus Explores the Human Body and Animals (2 Disc Lot): $10
- My First Amazing History Explorer: $3
- Explorers Of the New World: $2
- Richard Scarry's Best Reading Program and How Things World in Busytown (2 Disc lot) $30 shipped
- NHL 2001: $4
- Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (3 Disc Lot): $20
- Madagascar: $5
VR: - View Master Virtual Reality: Space Experience Pack: $5
Other Items: Please note: I cannot test the VR game because I don't have a phone that works with it, but if you purchase an untested game and it doesn't work you'll receive a refund for the item. Also, if you reach out to me on a weekday, I'm sorry if it takes me a while to get back to you, I work 2nd shift so I'm gone most of the day.
As far as sealed Pokémon TCG product goes, I’m open to anything since my sealed collection’s pretty small rn, but mainly things 2016 or newer. Also potentially interested in Cosmic Eclipse Tag Team Promos (SM240 and SM241) and other modern promos with cool art!
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Spoiler Alert: the results of the 2020-21 NBA Season
Some fans (like myself) loathe reading "
spoilers" for their favorite TV shows or movies. Others actively seek them out.
One of the best parts of being a sports fan is that it's
impossible to look ahead and know the outcome of the season. However, I happened to stumble upon a Sports Almanac and will divulge the results for you now. Of course, if you're prefer not to know what happens this year, skip this post and be surprised instead.
EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1)
Milwaukee Bucks : 50-22
With the news of Giannis Antetokounmpo's extensions serving as an early Christmas present, the Bucks roll into the year with good vibes and another dominant regular season run. Their new supporting takes some time to gel which leads to some more close games, but in turn that causes Giannis Antetokounmpo to play more minutes and put up better raw stats than ever (averaging 30 PPG for the first time in his career). Despite that, he's not a runaway MVP winner. Some voter fatigue and playoff backlash causes a split vote, with 5 different players receiving first-place voters. When the smoke clears and the dust settles, Giannis wins a close vote to snag his third consecutive MVP trophy.
(2)
Brooklyn Nets : 47-25
The Brooklyn Nets click together early, fueled by a healthy-looking Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. They race out to a 30-11 start to the regular season before taking their foot off the gas to help sustain their health. While that decision may help them in the long run, it costs Kevin Durant his early-season MVP buzz (similar to Kawhi Leonard's season in Toronto.) Still, the Nets enter the postseason with good vibes all around, which earns coach Steve Nash several laudatory media reports and nearly enables him to win Coach of the Year (he finishes second.)
(3)
Philadelphia 76ers : 46-26
Speaking of great press, new exec Daryl Morey receives plenty of glowing reviews himself after his tweaks to the roster work wonders. Thanks to the spacing of Seth Curry, Shake Milton, and surprise rookie Isaiah Joe, slashepasser Ben Simmons takes a leap up in efficiency, scoring a career-high 23 points a game and earning 2nd team All-NBA honors. Inside the locker room, it feels like there's a notable shift towards the roster being more of
his team than Joel Embiid's. Of course, the club knows they'll need both of them to dominant to make a Finals push.
(4)
Toronto Raptors : 45-27
Reigning Coach of the Year Nick Nurse doesn't get half as much recognition as he should for another strong year at the helm, helping the club to easily beat their Vegas oveunder of 41.5 wins. Still, there are cracks under the surface. Now at age 34/35, Kyle Lowry looks like he's lost a step and struggles to match his 36 minutes per game from the prior year. Although nothing is official yet, it looks like the team may have to say goodbye to Lowry at the end of the season as he enters free agency.
(5)
Miami Heat : 44-28
The Miami heat don't ride their momentum from the Finals trip into a top seed, partly due to some leaky defense on the perimeter. Frustrated, Pat Riley decides to make a power move and trade for Victor Oladipo. The fit doesn't click right away as the team retains a similar record, but the Heat still feel confident that they can turn up the volume when the playoffs roll around.
(6)
Boston Celtics : 43-29
After losing Gordon Hayward, the Boston Celtics' ascent up the Eastern Conference stagnates. For the first time, the media appears to turn on this likable coach and club, wondering if the team needs to make a dramatic trade to shake up the roster. Ultimately, they decide to hold on to Jaylen Brown and the core and take their chances in the playoffs with the current lineup.
(7)
Indiana Pacers : 38-34
The Indiana Pacers attempt to shift their playing style under new coach Nate Bjorkgren, but some up and down play leads them to make a move and (as mentioned) trade Victor Oladipo prior to his free agency. Afterwards, they play more minutes with PG Aaron Holiday and PG/SG Malcolm Brogdon in the same lineup, a look that leads to a faster paced offense more befitting of Bjorkgren's ultimate goal for the team. That said, the decision about the future of the Myles TurneDomatas Sabonis pairing looms in the background.
(8)
Atlanta Hawks : 35-37
All the moves the Atlanta Hawks made during the offseason pay off -- more or less -- as Danilo Gallinari and Bogdan Bogdanovic give Trae Young some much needed help. A year after finishing 26th in total offense, the team leaps up into the top half of the league. Still, struggles on defense keep the team below .500 on the year and lead to a dogfight all year long for that 8th seed.
(9)
Washington Wizards : 34-38
New PG Russell Westbrook earns rave reviews from his teammates and from the press early on, as the club jumps out to a 12-8 record and a presumptive playoff spot thanks to a renewed effort and attitude. Ultimately, their poor defense (ranked 30th last season) and their young frontcourt lead to a few too many losses along the way and prevent them from clinching a playoff spot outright. Coach Scott Brooks is let go after the season in favor of Denver assistant Wes Unseld Jr.
(10)
Charlotte Hornets : 30-42
The Charlotte Hornets' maligned signing of Gordon Hayward doesn't look too bad (in year 1) as Hayward returns to near All-Star levels with averages of 18-6-5. Still, the youth on the roster cripples any chance of a true playoff finish. At the same time, the future looks brighter than before. LaMelo Ball wins a polarizing Rookie of the Year campaign with good raw stats (15-5-7) on bad efficiency, while R2 pick Vernon Carey flirts with All-Rookie team for a solid 11-7 first year as a scoring big off the bench.
(11)
Chicago Bulls : 28-44
One year after winning Coach of the Year for mixing the perfect cocktail in Oklahoma City, Billy Donovan doesn't find the same type of immediate success with the young pieces here in Chicago. Rookie Patrick Williams looks promising, but second year guard Coby White shows more inconsistency than expected in his sophomore campaign.
(12)
Orlando Magic : 28-44
Despite the losses of Jonathan Isaac (injury) and D.J. Augustin (free agency), coach Steve Clifford keeps his team in the playoff mix for the first few months of the season. But once the team stumbles during a 1-5 stretch, the front office decides to wave the white flag and trade Aaron Gordon. For them, the purposes are twofold: to give more opportunity to rookie PF Chuma Okeke, and to eye a higher draft pick in a strong class. With that rebuild in mind, the team decides to empower rookie PG Cole Anthony over the last few month, indicating that free agent Markelle Fultz may not be in their future plans after all.
(13)
Detroit Pistons : 25-47
Returning from injury, Blake Griffin flashes the All-NBA caliber talent that he displayed two years ago when he led the team to a 41-41 record. However, Griffin continues to miss time here and there, effectively ending the team's chances of being a true playoff contender. The limited spacing also reveals itself, as the team struggles mightily to score in the games Griffin misses (finishing 8-19 without him.)
(14)
New York Knicks : 24-48
Hard-charging coach Tom Thibodeau pushes the Knicks too much for them to garner the top spot in the NBA Draft, but they still manage to finish in the bottom 5. For all the early Rookie of the Year buzz for Obi Toppin, he fails to win the award due to Thibodeau overplaying Julius Randle and Toppin's own bad stats on defense.
(15)
Cleveland Cavaliers : 21-51
The undersized perimeter leads to an awful defense that leaves the Cavaliers among the worst in the league yet again. The team attempts to trade Kevin Love to a contender, but an injury complicates that timeline and leads to an offseason exit for the big man instead.
WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Los Angeles Clippers : 48-24
After their embarrassing flameout against Denver, the L.A. Clippers come back with a chip on their shoulder and an eagerness to change the narrative about them. Their regular season play remains similar (top 5 in offense and defense), but comes with more effort and chemistry as a unit. By the time the season ends, they've gotten right back to the level of the Lakers in terms of title odds (+270).
(2) Los Angeles Lakers : 47-25
Unlike their cross-town rival (or rather, same-stadium rival), the L.A. Lakers don't feel the need to drive hard in the regular season after winning the title. LeBron James drastically reduces his workload in the regular season, going from 34.6 minutes a night down to 33.5. In the process, the Lakers lose their grip on the # 1 seed and LeBron James' loses his argument for another MVP. But as the playoffs approach, they don't seem to mind at all; they're still the betting favorite to win the title in Vegas.
(3) Utah Jazz : 44-28
After a full year in the system, PG Mike Conley's struggles are behind him and he helps the team threaten for the # 1 seed. Returning big man Derrick Favors helps the depth and helps the defense return to the top 8 (after falling to 13th last year), and wing Royce O'Neale finally gets some credit for that as well, finishing on the All-Defense team.
(4) Denver Nuggets : 43-29
While the Utah Jazz thrive because of their defense, Denver disappoints because of a declining one. Michael Porter Jr. looks like a future All-Star with averages of 16.7 points per game, but his struggles on the other end (in contrast to Jerami Grant) lead the Nuggets to finish in the bottom half of the league on D and prevent them from the presumptive step up that many expect.
(5) Dallas Mavericks : 41-31
Luka Doncic and company look as good as ever, but their returns demand on expectations. Luka Doncic puts up MVP-caliber stats, but doesn't actually win it (losing to Giannis.) The historically good offense takes a dip as the team realizes how much they miss Seth Curry. In his place, Josh Richardson underwhelms for his second straight team.
(6) New Orleans Pelicans : 38-34
After getting a lot of flak and a lot of flab, Zion Williams looks rejuvenated early on and the hype about him returns quickly. New coach Stan Van Gundy settles on rotations faster than Alvin Gentry did, and trusts his former player J.J. Redick more than Gentry did as well. Redick and Steven Adams' veteran leadership helps the youngsters play hard and fast every night, leading to a playoff spot despite inconsistent shooting as a team. Van Gundy wins Coach of the Year for the unexpected playoff trip and high seed.
(7) Portland Trail Blazers : 37-35
Despite a lot of good will and public support (including a projected # 2 seed from ESPN's Bobby Marks), Portland looks like the same ol' Blazers again with strong offense and poor defense. The feel-good Carmelo Anthony storyline ends poorly. Coach Terry Stotts shelves Anthony towards the second half of the season (due to poor defensive numbers), leading Anthony to bristle and ultimately work out a buy-out with the team.
(8) Phoenix Suns : 37-35
The Phoenix Suns officially turn the corner and become a winning team. Still, there's a stark contrast between their play with Chris Paul and without Chris Paul. And unfortunately for them, Paul's not as healthy as he had been the year before for OKC. He ends up missing 24 games, during which the Suns go 10-14.
(9) Houston Rockets : 36-36
The Houston Rockets play hardball and push the Philadelphia 76ers for a James Harden-Ben Simmons trade, but Daryl Morey and the Rockets stonewall them (feeling no time crunch, given that their stars are both young and on long-term deals.) Fortunately for the Rockets, James Harden sucks it up, starts the year in a Rocket uniform, and immediately looks like an MVP contender again with his incredible workload and efficiency. Alas, his new backcourt mate John Wall doesn't look quite at the same level in his first year back. Wall's struggles hurt the team's ceiling, and ultimately cast a dark cloud over their future (with Wall owed over $40M in each of the next 3 years.) The Harden trade may have been avoided for now, but still looks likely in the offseason.
(10) Golden State Warriors : 34-38
Returning star Steph Curry flashes the talent that made him a two-time MVP for stretches, but minor injuries keep derailing the momentum he has for an MVP push and for a playoff push for the team. Draymond Green doesn't snap back to prime form as many Warriors fans had hoped, leaving some doubt about his future with the club. Fortunately, rookie C James Wiseman steadily improves and looks like a future stud. Unfortunately, it won't be good enough to help the team for this season.
(11) Sacramento Kings: 32-40
The bad buzz about the Sacramento Kings turns around as a healthy De'Aaron Fox and Marvin Bagley III jumpstart an improvement from the year before. In fact, Bagley flirts with 20-10 averages, finishing just shy with 18.8 points per game. As a combo guard off the bench, Tyrese Haliburton is one of the most effective rookies in the class. Savvy analysts like Kevin Pelton push for him to win Rookie of the Year, but his limited minutes and counting stats leave him snubbed for the trophy.
(12) San Antonio Spurs : 31-41
The San Antonio Spurs get out to a strong 14-12 start thanks to an improved defense (and a lack of Bryn Forbes), leading many to campaign for Gregg Popovich as a potential Coach of the Year. Eventually the team lags behind in the crowded Western Conference and turns the reins over to the youngsters. DeMar DeRozan gets reduced time down the stretch as the team gets an extended look at Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassell as the potential wings of the future.
(13) Minnesota Timberwolves : 29-43
Karl-Anthony Towns continues his blistering pace from three, but doubt lingers about the roster construction beyond that as the next best players (D'Angelo Russell, Anthony Edwards, and Malik Beasley) all look like scoring guards. Among them, Beasley appears to be the odd man out, leading to a trade to Orlando in a package that yields back Aaron Gordon. Gordon helps the team's defense, but not in time to make a playoff push for this particular year.
(14) Memphis Grizzlies : 27-45
After a disappointing start to the season, the Grizzlies see no rush to bring back Jaren Jackson Jr. for heavy minutes. Instead, they try to find the right supporting players for the long haul. To that end, PF Brandon Clarke confirms his strong rookie season was no fluke, setting himself up for starters' minutes next season (with the idea being that they'll shift Jaren Jackson to the center position full time as well.)
(15) Oklahoma City Thunder : 18-54
Sam Presti and new coach Mark Daigneault work in tandem to help secure a top lottery pick for the club. Thanks to newly expanded rosters, the Thunder team looks even more anonymous than the Hinkie Sixers by the end, playing the equivalent of G-Leaguers for the last few weeks of the season. While OKC lands the top slot going into the lottery, they end up with the # 3 pick and miss out on the chance to draft local product Cade Cunningham. Still, it may be a blessing in disguise, as other top prospects SG Jalen Green and C Evan Mobley project to be good complements to foundational piece Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS
PLAY-IN GAMES
The Charlotte Hornets earn some buzz (get it??) and some predictions that they'll knock off the Indiana Pacers, but the Pacers handle their business and win 1-0. Meanwhile, the 8th-9th series between Atlanta and Washington is a dogfight. Russell Westbrook helps the Wizards win Game 1 with a 23-9-11 line, but he goes an ugly 7-23 in the second game as the Hawks win out.
ROUND ONE
(1) Milwaukee vs. (8) Atlanta
Atlanta's momentum is short-lived, as Giannis Antetounkoumpo and company crush them like bugs, 4-1.
(2) Brooklyn vs. (7) Indiana
Indiana fights harder than expected and manages to tie the series 2-2, but Kyrie Irving has a massive game 5 (43 points) and helps lead to a 4-2 win.
(3) Philadelphia vs. (6) Boston
Forget tough series -- this is an all-out war. Doc Rivers battles against his old team, and has an ace up his sleeve in the mammoth Joel Embiid whose size causes fits for the Celtics. With better shooting around him this time, it's enough to knock off the Celts, 4-3.
(4) Toronto vs. (5) Miami
Another great R1 series goes to the wire in Game 7. The Raptors' length bothers Jimmy Butler inside, but Miami's shooters provide enough of a pop to pull it out, 4-3.
ROUND TWO
(1) Milwaukee vs. (5) Miami
Milwaukee needs to exercise their demons from last year, facing the time that knocked them off. This time around, Giannis is fully healthy and paired with a big-time playoff competitor in Jrue Holiday, who helps provide the difference as the Bucks win 4-2. At this point, many analysts feel like this will be "Giannis' year."
(2) Brooklyn vs. (3) Philadelphia
In another high-profile clash, coaches Steve Nash and Doc Rivers receive a lot of spotlight for their star-studded teams. Unfortunately, Rivers has no answer in the bank for Kevin Durant, who averages 34.8 points en route to a 4-2 victory.
ROUND THREE
(1) Milwaukee vs. (2) Brooklyn
All year long, it looks like Milwaukee may have shaken off their playoff troubles and finally achieved their destiny. However, after a 2-1 lead, the tide starts to turn. Jarrett Allen and Kevin Durant's length helps limit Giannis to a mediocre series, allowing the Nets to rattle off 3 straight wins and make the Finals.
WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS
PLAY-IN GAMES
A play-in series between former teammates James Harden and Chris Paul favors CP3 and his supporting cast, as the Suns officially cement their playoff spot. While Steph Curry and the Warriors haven't had a strong year, they manage to steal game 1 from Portland thanks to 6 threes from Curry. However, Damian Lillard and the Blazers crank it up a notch and squeak by in Game 2 to advance.
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (8) Phoenix
Chris Paul gives his former team fits, but ultimately the Clippers pull out a slugfest, 4-2.
(2) L.A. Lakers vs. (7) Portland
A rematch of last year's R1 series goes in a similar direction, as the Lakers crush the Blazers 4-1. Anthony Davis averages 31-15, causing many to cite him as a top 3 player overall and future MVP.
(3) Utah vs. (6) New Orleans
The surging New Orleans Pelicans are a trendy pick for an upset, but the Utah Jazz continue to play the role of sleeper well, utilizing their defense and Donovan Mitchell's scoring (29.3 per game) to a comfortable 4-2 victory.
(4) Denver vs. (5) Dallas
Luka Doncic goes bananas against a soft Denver defense, logging 37-14-8 in Game 1 and 42 points in Game 3. However, Denver manages to get the job done in a 4-3 series. After the series, talk swirls about whether the Mavericks may need a third star to take the next jump. Mark Cuban spends the offseason on rosetta stone learning Greek.
ROUND TWO
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (4) Denver
Another rematch from last year, but one that doesn't lead to a repeat outcome. The Clippers are extremely motivated to put the Nuggets away when they have the chance, turning a 3-1 lead into a 4-1 victory this time.
(2) L.A. Lakers vs. (3) Utah
The plucky Utah Jazz give the favored Lakers everything they can handle and even take a 2-1 lead in the series. However, some big performances from LeBron James (and some questionable officiating) help the Lakers rally back to win three in a row and secure the ballyhooed showdown against the Clippers.
ROUND THREE
(1) L.A. Clippers vs. (2) L.A. Lakers
A must-see TV rematch between Kawhi Leonard and LeBron James comes down to the "Others," as new Clippers' SG Luke Kennard plays much better than Lakers' shooters KCP and Kyle Kuzma. When the dust settles, the Clippers pull it out 4-2. After the series, the Lakers cite a lingering wrist injury to Anthony Davis as a potential reason why they didn't look 100%.
NBA FINALS
(2) Brooklyn Nets vs. (1) L.A. Clippers
The NBA world misses out on a KD-LeBron series (or a Kyrie-LeBron series, depending on your perspective), but we still get an awesome matchup with other superstars like Durant and Kawhi Leonard. Leonard and Paul George bother KD to some degree, but the Nets' backcourt of Kyrie Irving and Joe Harris keeps their offense moving nonetheless. Irving has a few signature games (37 in Game 2, 31-9 in Game 5) compared to a quieter Paul George (15.8 PPG in the series) and helps the BROOKLYN NETS win the NBA CHAMPIONSHIP in a 4-2 win. KD wins a close vote for Finals MVP, but Irving and coach Steve Nash get a lot of credit as well.
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[OC] Expansion and Realignment Proposal
Lately I've seen various news articles suggesting that the NBA may be interested in
expanding and/or
reducing team travel in upcoming seasons. I've developed
a proposalto accomplish both goals while also creating more logical divisions and enhancing team rivalries, which a podcaster (I believe Chris Vernon?) recently suggested for building more excitement in the league.
To start, I would add two expansion teams to the NBA, bringing the total to 32 - the same number of teams as the NFL and conveniently divisible by 2, 4, 8, and 16 - so each conference could have 16 teams and each division could have 4 or 8 teams.
CBS Sports suggested four potential expansion cities - Seattle, Las Vegas, Kansas City, and Mexico City. Seattle is a no-brainer, as any NBA fan would like to see a return of the Supersonics, and the ongoing retrofit of the city's arena will make the logistics of a Sonics return much simpler. The CBS article notes that KC would be a relatively small market, while Mexico City would pose its own logistical challenges, so I think Vegas is the most likely spot for the NBA's 32nd team given its rapid growth, successful integration of the WNBA and NHL, and the sheer number of wealthy tourists passing through the city on a regular basis.
With Seattle and Las Vegas in the mix, I organized teams into pairs based on geography. I paired each team with a "geographic rival" to form the building blocks of new NBA divisions. Some of these were obvious. The teams sharing markets in LA and NYC should be in the same division, as should the NorCal and Florida teams.
Atlanta and Charlotte make sense as rivals due to their proximity, and their rebuilding situations could lead to an intriguing rivalry. Similarly, Denver and Utah are in similar places geographically and as second-tier contenders, and who wouldn't want to see Murray-Mitchell duels throughout the regular season?
The inclusion of Seattle and Vegas create obvious geographic rivals for Portland and Phoenix, respectively, setting up potential battles for the Pacific Northwest and Desert Southwest throughout the year. Thus far, the Western Conference would consist of LAC-LAL, GSW-SAC, DEN-UTA, SEA-POR, and LVG-PHO, accounting for 10 of the 16 eventual teams in the West. Looking at the remaining 7 current West teams reveals a more complicated geographic picture, so I'll explain my rationale for sorting them with the caveat that there are many paths forward from here.
First, as you may have guessed from the addition of two Western Conference teams, we will move Minnesota to the East and come back to them later. That leaves OKC, MEM, NOP, and the three Texas teams in the West. In my opinion, pairing New Orleans and Memphis makes a ton of sense, as they are relatively close to one another and already showcase a budding rivalry between the top two picks of the 2019 draft. OKC is much closer to Dallas than San Antonio or Houston, so I'd pair OKC-DAL and SAS-HOU to round out the Western Conference. Finally, as I had hoped to create 8-team divisions, we could sort the four California teams, Seattle, Portland, Vegas, and Phoenix into a new "Pacific" division, with the remaining three Texas teams, Utah, Denver, OKC, Memphis, and New Orleans sorted into a "Southwest" division.
Moving over to the Eastern Conference, the geographic rivalry situation becomes a bit more complicated. In addition to the aforementioned four Southeast teams, the conference includes seven teams clustered near the Great Lakes and five teams along the Northeast Corridor. While there are some teams in close proximity such as Milwaukee-Chicago, that pairing would leave Minnesota alone and forced to pair with a more distant team such as Indiana. Thus, I paired Minnesota with Milwaukee, Chicago with Indiana (reigniting the 90s rivalry), and Detroit with Cleveland (two teams in similar rebuilding situations).
Philadelphia may be closer to NYC, but as those two teams are already paired, I paired Philly with Washington. This leaves Boston and Toronto as the odd teams out, and although they would travel more than most other teams, I wouldn't mind seeing a few extra games each year between these two perennial contenders. Sorting the teams into 8-team divisions isn't very straightforward, but I placed Boston-Toronto in the Northeast division to join the Great Lakes teams (MIN-MIL, CHI-IND, DET-CLE). This would place the New York teams, the Florida teams, Philadelphia, Washington, Charlotte, and Atlanta in the Atlantic division.
Perhaps these divisions aren't totally logical, but I'm pretty sure they would minimize travel time. They could also be adjusted for other possible expansion teams in place of Las Vegas. For example, if Kansas City replaces Vegas, KC could replace Utah as Denver's geographic rival, while Utah could replace Vegas as Phoenix's rival. Similarly, if Mexico City replaces Vegas, Mexico City could replace Houston as San Antonio's rival, Dallas could replace San Antonio as Houston's rival, Denver could replace Dallas as OKC's rival, and Utah could once again replace Vegas as Phoenix's rival. Similar logic could smoothly incorporate other possible expansion cities such as San Diego, Louisville, Montreal, and Virginia Beach.
A 32-team league with geographic rivals could translate pretty clearly into a permanent 72-game schedule, which could also boost player health and enhance playoff game quality. Each team would play the other 31 teams twice, once at home and once away, for a total of 62 leaguewide games. Teams could then play each division rival one additional time (7 total games), with home/away/home splits swapped each year, and then could play their geographic rival 3 additional times for a total of 62+7+3=72 games.
I came up with this in my free time as a
Google MyMaps exercise, so I'm really intrigued to hear feedback from those of you who think about the NBA more than me! Happy offseason folks!
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15 Probably Biased Reasons the Miami Heat can defeat the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals
Alright so instead of doing any school work I spent the last four hours or so coming up with a list of reasons I feel good about our chances in this series. I wrote this with a non-heat-fan audience in mind because my plan was to post it on FB, so you may notice a bunch of stuff in there that is common knowledge in this sub (esp when I talk about Spo). If someone wants the source for a specific stat, let me know. Didn't feel like citing every single thing lol. Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to read! I've been a die-hard fan since 2004, and this squad is probably my favorite. What a magical run. I'm grateful to share it with all you guys! Enjoy my rambling:
- Strength in numbers. Everyone is talking about LA having the two best players in this series, but so far only JJ Redick has pointed out that Miami has the next best five. This must mean something, right? Maybe this is a point of contention, but, to me, 5 very good players > 2 outstanding players.
- Built for LeBron. Throughout LeBron’s tenure in the league, there has been a group of players that have consistently been able to guard him effectively. Of the eight players who were the best at guarding LeBron between 2014 and 2018, three are on Miami. Iguodala (#8), Crowder (#6), and Butler (#4). While Jimmy has excelled at limiting Bron’s FG% (a 13% decrease in accuracy) and forcing him to turn the ball over (a 29% increase), Crowder has limited his scoring volume (33% fewer points) and assists (39% fewer assists), with a similar impact from Iggy (20% fewer points, 29% fewer assists). Not to mention, Miami has two more players that can switch onto any position 1-5: Derrick Jones Jr. and Bam. Bam came into this league as a defensive specialist, and this asset of his has not been reduced, which is evidenced by his election to the NBA All-defensive team this year. DJJ is a defensive machine, with a 7’0” wingspan that frequents passing lanes. From this perspective, this team actually appears like it was built to handle LeBron.
- LeBron has struggled against Miami since he left in 2014. Between 2014 and 2018, LeBron was 0-8 when playing in Miami. This includes losing to a team that went 37-45 and a team that started off 2016 going 11-30, led by Dion Waiters… It’s clear that LeBron does not play his best basketball when the Heat are in their comfort zone. Amidst the media effort to discredit Miami all playoffs (an argument for another time), there has been a common viewpoint: the Orlando bubble has generated a relative homecourt advantage for the Heat. They’re playing in the same climate, they’ve been within a few hours of their families all along, and, heck, they probably even have some of their local TV channels in their hotel. This may be a stretch, but one can’t ignore that they have the same win percentage (80%) in the bubble that they did when playing at home this season. If the Heat continue to play like they’re the home team this season, history suggests LeBron will have a hard time.
- “Playoff LeBron” is less relevant here. Bron has never had to play against Miami in the playoffs before. His getting to the finals 9 of the last 10 years means a lot less when you consider 4 of those times were with the Heat and none of the other times were against them. More importantly, he has never had to battle Erik Spoelstra in a playoff series. If you have been watching Miami in these playoffs, you’ve had the fortune of watching Spo make major adjustments from game to game. This is a team that never repeats mistakes and is subsequently very tough to exploit.
- LA’s biggest strengths will be weaknesses against Miami. At first glance, the most threatening aspects of LA’s game against Miami (aside from the obvious greatness of LeBron and AD) are their height and their dominance in the paint. We need to consider the flipside of these powers, though; when LA goes big, they sacrifice pacing significantly. Anyone who watched Miami during the season saw how lethal they are in the fast break and how quickly they can move the ball to find the open man. LA can’t afford to sacrifice speed for the sake of height. And if LA chooses to close off the paint to drives from Bam, Jimmy, Dragic, and Herro, they will inevitably give up open threes. This would be an absolute gift to Duncan Robinson, who has the 5th best 3pt % of all time, even ahead of Steph Curry. Not to mention the elite shooting offered by Tyler Herro, the ever-present threat of Jae Crowder getting streaky (Jae had a 4-game stretch in the playoffs in which he shot 20/41 from three), and the strong 3pt shooting of Dragic. In fact, every player on Miami besides Bam can and will shoot the three ball. Even Jimmy has made one out of every three of his attempts in the playoffs, and Iggy went 4 for 4 in Game 6 of the ECF. Look for LA to have a hard time finding the balance between keeping Miami’s aggressors out of the paint without freeing up the perimeter – an issue Miami needs to worry much less about.
- Bam is statistically favored in a matchup with Anthony Davis. Sure, AD is going to outscore Bam. But in terms of their relative impact on each other, the analytics favor Bam. AD will not be able to score in isolation the way he did against Denver (and without that high-percentage iso scoring, LA loses Games 2 and 4 in that series, potentially prompting a 7-game series). Bam is slightly favored from an offensive perspective too, assuming AD guards him most of the time.
- Bam ranks 3rd in the NBA in direct isolation defense.
- Bam ranks 3rd in the NBA in points per drive, while AD ranks 4th.
- Bam ranks 12th in the NBA in points allowed per drive, while AD ranks 66th!!!
- Bam is killing it on the boards in the playoffs, grabbing 11.2 rpg (5th in the playoffs), compared to 9.3 by AD (14th in the playoffs).
- AD’s standout performances in the playoffs so far should be qualified by the fact that he faced slow defenders on the Nuggets and Blazers and had a humungous height advantage against the Rockets. Bam has none of these vulnerabilities.
- LA has no answer for Miami’s three-point shooting. LA has allowed teams to shoot 36.6% from three in the playoffs (ranked 9th), and, as my reasoning from #5 above suggests, this is the Heat’s bread and butter. Consider also that Boston’s league-best perimeter defense (held opponents to 31% 3pt in the playoffs) wasn’t enough to beat the Heat. If Miami can beat a team that negates their strongest skill in 6 games, imagine what they can do without that obstacle. If the 3pt flood gates open for Miami, LA will need to respond with threes of their own. Well, there’s an answer for that, too. Miami is 2nd in 3pt defense in the playoffs. Say goodbye to pretty much any usefulness from Danny Green and Kyle Kuzma.
- Miami wins the free throw battle. The Heat are shooting 82.1% from the FT line in the playoffs, while LA is shooting a concerning 74.7% on two less attempts per game. Bam is personally shooting 82.4% (which is nuts for a center) and has steadily been getting to the line more and more. LA will need to hope AD gets to the line much more than LeBron does to try to balance out his poor shooting from the stripe (74.1% vs. AD’s 81%).
- Erik Spoesltra is going to coach circles around Frank Vogel. I don’t think anyone can even remotely challenge this, but just to be safe, I’ll cite a few of the adjustments Spo has expertly made in the playoffs so far. I’m sure Vogel has made minor but impactful adjustments that I didn’t register, but he certainly hasn’t made any as big as Spo has. Most notable for Vogel in my opinion were the times he has gotten creative with Rondo and Dwight’s minutes. Aside from those, their play in the bubble has just seemed like LeBron driving and/or feeding AD while the sponge brains that fill out the roster do what LeBron tells them so he doesn’t look at them with fatherly disappointment. Some examples of Spo’s adjustments are:
- Put Dragic in the starting lineup after his 6th Man of the Year level performance all season coming off the bench. Spo had the foresight to change Dragic’s role even though he absolutely brutalized second strings all year long. This resulted in Dragic consistently dropping over 20 points all playoffs and being a source of offense when it wasn’t coming from anywhere else.
- Benched Kendrick Nunn after starting him all year long and him finishing 2nd in Rookie of the Year voting. Spo then eliminated all Nunn’s minutes when he realized his skillset wasn’t going to be maximally productive against Boston. This had a huge effect on game outcomes.
- Benched Meyers Leonard after starting him every game this season. Meyers gave this team height and a huge 3pt threat. Conceding both of these benefits after they blatantly contributed to winning also paid off big time. Another example of Spo taking what the other team gives him rather than stubbornly using a proven system. He has a rare immunity to the dangerous “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” mindset in that he fixes things before they even have a chance to break.
- Designed the only defensive scheme that has been able to contain Giannis all year long. Literally no other team has been able to do this. If it was as simple as “building a wall”, other teams would have done it. Miami did it effectively during the season (2-1) and the playoffs (4-1), with the latter including minor adjustments to contain Middleton and render Bledsoe useless.
- Executed a zone that effectively contained the Celtics offense. If it weren’t for Tatum, Brown, Walker, and Smart reliably hitting tightly contested threes and midrange jumpers, this may have been a 4-1 series. Aside from Game 3 and the 3rd quarter of Game 5, Brad Stevens had almost no answer for the zone despite having at least three incredible scorers on the floor at all times.
- Unpredictability factor. If Miami successfully defends Bron and AD, those two will have nobody else to go to for scoring. Throughout these entire playoffs, a Laker whose name isn’t LeBron or Anthony has only scored more than 18 points one time, and it was Rondo (while Rondo does represent a bit of a wildcard, I am pretty confident he will not have a 20 point game in this series). In 8 of the 15 games, none of their non-Bron or non-AD guys even exceeded 15 points. LeBron and AD are the only players averaging over 11. The Heat have SIX players averaging over 11. Anyone can have themselves a game on any given night. No amount of film can prepare the Lakers for it. There are games where Duncan Robinson hits 7 or 8 threes. Bam just put up 32, 14, and 5 to close out the East Finals. 20-year-old Tyler Herro put up 37 off the bench against a Brad Stevens defense. Jimmy put up 40 against the best defensive team in the NBA. Dragic has been consistently putting up 20 or more as a reliable cushion. No one can argue that planning a defensive scheme is going to be a more complex problem for Vogel than it will be for Spo, who has time and time again proven he is LeBron’s toughest challenge in this league. The only new variables for Spo’s consideration are AD’s scoring, Rondo’s playmaking (in limited minutes), and how much less of a 3-point threat this team is than LeBron’s previous teams.
- Boston is a better overall team than LA, and Miami busted through them in 6 games. Hot take, I know. But consider that Boston blew out LA 139-107 this year. Boston has 3 of the best, craftiest scorers in the league, along with the efficient Gordon Hayward and the breakout two-way phenomenon that is Marcus Smart. Miami did not match up well with Boston at all, and they still made it out of the East. And in the continued interest of disrespecting Frank Vogel: Brad Stevens >>> Vogel.
- Miami has been preparing for this for months. Everyone knew it would be an LA team coming out of the West, and once we saw Playoff P become Wayoff P, I think we all figured it would be the Lakers. But even before this, back when the season shut down, you can believe Spo was in the lab cooking up a plan for the Lakers. I don’t think anyone can deny Spo is one of the smartest coaches in the league. If you think he didn’t spend at least some of the 3 months he was stuck in his house planning for a potential Lakers matchup, you’re in a clinically worrisome state of denial. Similarly, you’re out of your mind if you think LA spent a single second planning for Miami before they took over the Bucks series. Even after that, how much time can a coach really dedicate to planning for another team when your guys are still battling to advance? This obviously applies to both parties, but Miami has the clear pre-bubble advantage here. Some sources actually gave Miami 110-1 odds of making the finals when the season started. Who in their right mind would scout a team like that when Giannis was having an MVP season and leading the Bucks to the best record in the NBA? Hell, even after Miami gentlemen-swept the #1 seed Bucks, ESPN still didn’t dive into what Miami was doing right. Instead, they spent three days talking about who Giannis was following on Instagram. This team has the clear benefit of no one giving a shit about them until now, while LA has been public enemy #1 for a year. It’s also worth mentioning that Miami plays what is probably the closest thing to “position-less basketball” in the league. It even caused league-wide head scratching when it came time to vote for All Stars by position: nobody had any idea what position Jimmy Butler played. This sort of free-flowing, unrestricted playstyle is intrinsically challenging to plan for. This Laker team has never dealt with the spin Bam puts on the point-center role. Jokic is a skilled playmaker but he is much slower than Bam, and PJ Tucker lacks playmaking and height. This will be an entirely new challenge for LA.
- No NBA coach has LeBron’s number the way Spo does. He coached him for 4 years and did such an effective, focused job at it that it resulted in 2 titles in that time. Compare that to Bron winning just 1 other title in the other 12 years he played before this season. Yeah, yeah, he had Wade and Bosh, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that Bron’s time in Miami was huge for his growth as a leader and playmaker. Spo and Pat Riley’s teachings are a huge part of the way Bron sees the game now. If they were able to exploit this in one-off, meaningless regular season games, imagine what they can do in a series with a championship on the line.
- LA has not been tested in the playoffs. Miami has, and they’ve adapted. Aside from losing Game 1 against Portland and Houston, what tests have the Lakers faced? They opened up the playoffs against the defensive-trash-can Trailblazers who gave actual minutes to Hassan Whiteside, a player so detrimental to his team that Miami effectively paid to get rid of him, and had to deal with an injured Damian Lillard for two games. Then they went up against their best mismatch in the entire league, the small-ball Rockets. Not only could they feast on the height gap, they could reap the benefits of Houston’s offense relying on Westbrook’s drunk-driving, rabid-animal, Stevie-Wonder-passing playstyle and Harden’s contested threes and chronic need to get calls. Finally, they played the Denver Nuggets, who were admittedly very impressive, but were still only the 11th net rated team in the league. They avoided the Clippers entirely. Compare this to a Miami team who was given a .02% chance of making it past the 2nd round. A team whose 2nd playoff matchup was against the #1 team in the league with the #1 defensive rating, back-to-back MVP, Defensive Player of the Year, and three players from the All-Defensive Team. A team who then had to battle the Boston Celtics, a team loaded with top draft picks. Butler even admitted the Celtics have more talented players, and I think we can all agree with that. Miami was tested in both of these series. They had to generate a defensive scheme to stop the 2x MVP while still containing Middleton, a rare midrange specialist. They had to completely change their approach against Boston, a team with more scoring versatility than any team in the league. LA has a much realer chance of entering this series from a place of complacency, having hardly needed to adapt so far. Miami has been developing the entire time.
- Miami’s mindset is more conducive to winning a title. The narrative for this Heat squad is that they individually and collectively have a chip on their shoulder. This is the narrative not simply because ESPN realized people are tired of hearing the word “culture.” It’s the narrative because it’s true at every level. From the undrafted Duncan Robinson who was actively pursuing a career in media just three years ago, to the under-recruited Jimmy Butler whose mom kicked him out at age 13 because she “didn’t like his looks”, these guys all have a shared mentality. This is the intersecting point of at least 10 different sad storylines, all coming together to prove something. We’ve seen it each of the seven times they have beaten Vegas’s odds. We’ve seen it each time they’ve recovered from 15+ point deficits. We just saw it against the Celtics when Bam took the blame for losing Game 5 and then dropped a career high in Game 6. Juxtapose this team-wide mentality to the Lakers, who, more than anything, are trying not to lose. I don’t expect everyone to agree with me here. Probably no one will. But hear me out. Yes, the Lakers are playing for Kobe. But, the effect of that isn’t as simple as inspiring them to win. It’s putting pressure on them to not blow this. The Lakers have two of the best players in the NBA, and one of them is one of the greatest athletes in history. They’re a 1 seed going up against a 5 seed built on completely opposite principles: player development and organization-wide commitment. They risk being the catalyst for a paradigm shift in how teams are built. If LA loses, league executives will need to question super teams and tanking for draft picks, two of the prevailing approaches to winning for more than the last decade, and genuinely consider Miami’s approach. This storyline would go hand-in-hand with LeBron ruining his legacy with his finals record becoming 3-7. This could be the straw that breaks the Jordan comparison’s back. I’m not saying LeBron’s fear of a 7th finals loss is greater than his desire for a 4th finals win. I’m not saying he is more worried about disappointing Kobe than he is motivated to honor Kobe. I’m not saying he is more scared of the entire-locker-room-for-AD trade not paying off than he is excited to use the power of them as a duo in the finals. What I am saying is that he and the Lakers have so much more to lose than the Heat do, and, if we learned anything from the Clippers this year, it’s that fear of losing is not an optimal motivator. Not when you compare it to what is driving this Miami team.
EDIT: fixed numbering formatting
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[Purdum] 17 of the first 18 bets on the NBA Finals were on the Miami Heat at the SuperBook at Westgate Las Vegas. The Los Angeles Lakers' odds have gone from -450 to -360 at the SuperBook
Context | Los Angeles Lakers heavy favorites to win NBA Finals, but Miami Heat drawing early action:
Sportsbooks have installed the Los Angeles Lakers as considerable favorites to beat the Miami Heat in the NBA Finals. The early betting action, though, has been on the underdogs, and the odds are on the move.
The Lakers are -400 favorites at William Hill U.S. sportsbooks, with the Heat listed as +320 underdogs. Early support for Miami has caused the odds to move at some sportsbooks.
As of Monday morning, 17 of the first 18 bets on the NBA Finals were on the Heat at the SuperBook at Westgate Las Vegas. The Lakers' odds have gone from -450 to -360 at the SuperBook since the price was posted late Monday night after the matchup was set.
The SuperBook is facing a low six-figure liability on the Lakers winning the title, a figure that began mounting in June 2019, when Anthony Davis was acquired and speculation of also adding Kawhi Leonard was circulating. The SuperBook took several bets on the Lakers in the $10,000-$20,000 range last summer, and the support never stopped.
While there has been plenty of interest in the Lakers throughout the season, the Heat were not a popular pick. Ten teams attracted more bets to win the title than Miami at the SuperBook, including the Golden State Warriors, who ended up among the teams that did not participate in the NBA's restart in Orlando. The Lakers are consensus 5-point favorites over the Heat in Game 1 of the Finals on Wednesday. Source per ESPN submitted by dr_crackgeek to nba [link] [comments]
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No. 1 - Landon Lueck (Real World: Philadelphia)
Good Guy Landon has one of the greatest rookie campaigns ever on Inferno II.
Despite being the only male rookie on his team, Landon went on to outperform everyone on his team. Landon lead the Good Guys in four life shields, Mike came in 2nd with three, and Darrell came in third place by winning one. The four life shields Landon won tested upper body strength (Zip Up), mental strength (Heart Rate Bungee), and other various skills (Time to Ride and Dodge Yer Balls). Good Guy Landon not only excelled in missions. Landon went 2-0 in the elimination floor (won against Karamo in a physical-strategy game and beat Dan in a climbing contest where players had to use pegs to climb up a wall). From a pure competition standpoint, I’d say Landon was the second best performer out of both teams, coming in second (C.T. won 6 life shields for the Bad Asses, two more than Landon). However, in the end, CT’s team didn’t win and Landon’s did, so you can always make the argument that Landon was the MVP of the championship team, therefore the number one performer when taking the ultimate victory into account.
Landon’s Zip Up (Inferno II) is one of the greatest mission performances of all-time.
In Zip Up, there were two identical zip lines high in the air (one for each team). Once at a time, players from both teams were suspended from these zip lines and below them were travel lines they had to use to pull themselves up. The goal of the mission was to travel as far as you can in a 2 minute time limit. The travel line was on a steady incline making it difficult to travel the higher you’d go. On the travel line, there were meter markers attached to the lines to indicate how far each player traveled. At the end, the team with the highest cumulative distance reached would win the mission. Zip Up was a test of pure upper body strength and muscular endurance. There were eight heats.
The Good Guys trailed for almost the whole competition and right before the final heat, they finally caught up and evened the score with the Bad Asses. The outcome of the mission was going to be determined by the final match-up. The last Good Guys player to go was Landon, and C.T. was the last player to represent the Bad Asses. The responsibility to win now laid in the hands of the best players on each team. It couldn’t get more epic than that. Up until to that point, here were the meters traveled by the rest of the competitive field: Mike Mizanin – 17 meters, Abram – 20, Darrell – 20, Derrick – 26, and Brad – 28 m. In the final heat, C.T. reached 26 meters and Landon got to a staggering 33 meters. Not only did Landon’s clutch performance win Zip Up for the Good Guys team, but he blew the physical brute C.T. out the water in a mission that was catered to C.T.’s physical strength. Landon doubled Mike’s distance, who was one of the strongest guys during this period of time. Landon might’ve not been built with humongous size like C.T. or Mike, but his strength and physical endurance was out of this world, and Zip Up confirms that.
Landon became the General to Captain Alton on Gauntlet II.
In Landon’s sophomore season, he was cast on the Rookies, where he became the second best player on the team after Captain Alton. Every time teams had to come up with pairs for missions (Balancing Act and Easy Does It), Alton paired up with Landon and those two put up the best time/score becoming the sole reason the Rookies won that mission.
In Balancing Act, pairs had to walk across parallel tight ropes while facing one another using a small rope to help them control their balance. Twelve pairs competed. Eleven of them failed miserably. The only pair to complete the challenge were Alton and Landon giving the Rookies the win.
In Easy Does It, pairs had to climb up a rope ladder and transfer themselves across a tilting platform under a certain time limit. Alton and Landon were one of only four pairs (the other six failed) to complete the mission and they did it the fastest. The Rookies won again.
Alton recognized that other than him, Landon was the best athlete on his team which is why he was always pairing with him in missions and calling him “General Landon” all season long. Although Landon wasn’t of the highest rank within the Rookies, being second-in-line allowed him to avoid the gauntlet and make it to the final challenge. The Rookies won the finals and Landon reeled in another trophy on his sophomore season.
General Landon turned into Lando Commando on the Duel II.
By Landon’s third season, it was evident that he was done being the ultimate competitor sidekick to Boston Robot CT on Inferno II and Superman Alton on Gauntlet II. Landon was now the number one guy. On the Duel II, Landon’s opposition was Brad, Evan, and Mark for the whole regular season. There were 9 regular season missions on the Duel II. One of them was a spelling bee (Spelling Air) and there was another that involved politics in which the cast basically determined who they would be fine with winning the competition (Last Man Standing). The other 7 missions in the season actually required competitive abilities. Out of those seven, Landon won five of them (All Shook Up, Burnt, Dangle Duo, Luge Your Mind, and Upside Downer), and he came in second place for the other two (Don’t Let Go and Freezing As Puck).
In All Shook Up, challengers fought to the death hanging onto a pair of parallel ropes above a mud pit. The goal of the mission was to shake everyone off the rope by any means necessary and be the last competitor hanging on. The final two in Landon’s first heat came down to Landon and Mark, and they had a grappling contest using just their legs to kick one another off while hanging onto the ropes for dear life. Landon successfully wrestled Mark off the ropes and soaked him in mud. Landon then went on to take care of Nehemiah and M.J. in the final heat to win the mission.
In Dangle Duo, individuals had to pair up with someone of the opposite sex and climb up a 100-foot chained ladder that was high in the air; fastest team to reach the bell at the top of the ladder would go on to win the mission. Landon outsmarted his opponents by being the only male to use his back as a stepping stool for his female partner, Brittni, so she can help herself climb up the ladder. The other females struggled to climb up the ladder in rapid pace due to poor upper body strength because their male partners failed to think of the same strategy Landon had thought of. Because of this, Landon and Brittni won.
In Upside Downer, players were suspended 200 feet into the air, over a river and had to swing from side to side using a rope under them to grab carvings that were suspended on both sides of the rope under them. The player to collect the ten carvings the fastest would go on to win the mission. Upside Downer was a mission that tested fear of heights and agility. Here were the results: Derek collected 1 tablet and was disqualified by the 10 minute time limit, M.J. collected the ten tablets with a time of 9 minutes 37 seconds, Evan - 5 minutes 27 seconds, Brad - 4 minutes 53 seconds, Mark - 2 minutes 52 seconds, and Landon got all ten with a time of 2 minutes flat. Landon performed as if he had the same exact contraption somewhere in his backyard. Landon’s Upside Downer showing was unreal, and it definitely deserves a mention in the super short list of greatest mission performances in Challenge history.
Landon saw two eliminations on the Duel II. He went into the fifth duel of the Season v. Isaac. They played Spot On, where they had to complete a puzzle that was located on a rock climbing wall. Puzzle-based eliminations are unsafe for any competitor, especially the best challenge athletes. They’re not allowed to use their strength or athleticism to inflict damage on their opponents, and they have to retreat to their brains to keep them alive. Puzzles are the perfect equalizers for mediocre competitors when they go up against a great athlete, but not if you’re going up against Landon (a great athlete who also happens to have ATG intelligence). Landon blew out Isaac on Spot On, just a few days after having just won the only intelligence based mission of the season, Luge My Mind.
Landon was one highly questionable elimination away from the only perfect career ever.
Landon dominated the Duel II all the way up until the final 4. When it got down to four remaining males, T.J. was out of missions and only had three spots for the finals. Landon, Brad, Evan, and Mark all had to vote one male to throw into the final male duel. Landon suggested writing down names into a hat, they all agreed and he left the room to go get pieces of paper. Fatal mistake. As soon as Landon left the room, the rest of the group plotted behind his back and agreed to write his name down and vote him in. Landon chose to go against Brad in the final male duel, Back Off, and lost 2-1 in a best-of-three rounds.
It’s a universal opinion within the Challenge fandom that Brad vs. Landon is one of the most questionable elimination results in challenge history. Landon was disqualified in the first round for not going after Brad’s ring and Brad got away with doing the same exact thing that Landon did in later rounds that got him the victory. Brad swinging Landon’s hook was such an illegal prayer of a move that was legal? Challenge production screwed this one up. I’m convinced they forgot to explain what wasn’t allowed and just let Brad win without making it a bigger controversy. Had Brad never “legally” swung Landon’s hook, Landon would’ve won the elimination and the final challenge would’ve been his to win.
Landon’s loss to Brad is the only blemish in his record. Not just elimination record. I’m talking career record. Landon is the greatest finals runner to ever exist in America’s Fifth Sport (only Jordan rivals him in this element). His performance in the Fresh Meat II final (which I get into later) manifests this notion. Landon’s ATG stamina and his upbringing of great outdoor activities – biking, hiking, and climbing – have allowed him to dominate every final challenge thrown his way. The Duel II final was tailor-made for him. Theoretically speaking, if the Back Off elimination was called fair, Landon eliminates Brad, goes to the final and wins comfortably barring the chance he gets eaten by a bear on his way to the finish line. Landon’s career then becomes: 6-0 elimination record, 4 out of 4 finals appearances, 4 out of 4 championship seasons, and a triple crown achievement. In the Challenge, no one is invincible. Landon almost was. Landon was one strange officiated elimination away from the only picture perfect career ever in Challenge history. But the reality is: Landon has a 5-1 elimination record, 3 out of 4 finals, and 3 out of 4 championships and that’s more than enough to take the Challenge throne…Especially, when you take into consideration the breaking record performances he had in his last championship season, Fresh Meat II.
Landon’s Fresh Meat II is the most impressive season performance in challenge history.
This is the season where the personality of Good Guy Landon and the out of this world physical abilities of Lando Commando join forces to make the perfect example of a what a challenge competitor should be. On FM2, Landon was dealt the worst hand you can ask for in Challenge land, a terrible partner. He was paired up with Carley, who is undoubtedly one of the worst female competitors to ever put on a Challenge uniform. There’s been 168 females to ever compete in the Challenge; Carley doesn’t crack top 150 if we’re judging based off pure competitive abilities. That’s how terrible Carley was. Landon still miraculously managed to win two missions with Carley. They were the only pair other than Kenny/Laurel to win multiple missions on FM2. Landon also won two exiles, despite having to drag Carley around who nearly died on more than one occasion, because her shape and conditioning was deadly poor.
Landon non-believers would argue that his FM2 win was against an average bunch. This is false. Landon’s high end opposition was Kenny and Laurel, Luke and Evelyn, Pete and Jillian, and Noor and Jenn. Laurel and Evelyn are the top 2 females to ever compete in the Challenge. Kenny, although average throughout his career as a competitor was a workhorse on FM2. Jenn and Jillian were well established veterans and above average competitors. Their partners Pete and Noor were some of the best rookie athletes the Challenge had seen during that time period. The competition in the final stages of FM2 was stacked and Landon defeated all of them while having a dead body attached to his hip that he had to carry around throughout the show’s entirety.
Exile v. The Women’s Division G.O.A.T.
As mentioned above, Carley doesn’t crack the top 150 females to have ever compete. Evelyn has a strong case for being the number one female ever from a pure competition standpoint. Her partner, Luke, is the definition of an Average Joe based off his performances on FM2 and Cutthroat. He wasn’t the fastest or the strongest. He actually had a smaller build than ninety percent of the males cast on the Challenge, but he was athletic, showed various skill (beat Big Easy in Swat), and proved himself as a long distance runner in the grueling Cutthroat final. There’s been 161 males to have ever compete on the Challenge. If I had to make a rough estimate where Luke ranked amongst every male to ever lace them up, I’d say Luke is somewhere between 70-80, worst case scenario.
The tale of the tape for the Landon/Carley v. Evelyn/Luke exile that happened at the end of the season was basically looking like: #1 all-time male Landon and #150 all-time female Carley vs. #1 all-time female Evelyn and #75 all-time Luke. The title for the gender-neutral G.O.A.T. title was on the line. Going into the exile, Evelyn had the large upper hand (a far better opposite sex partner). It was evident that Landon was going to have to break his back to have a chance at winning.
When the exile went underway, Carley blacked out and couldn’t carry any of the weights in her buckets. Landon carried all 150 pounds by himself, whereas Luke and Evelyn split carried theirs. Along with carrying all of Carley’s weight, he solved all three puzzles without her help because she was too busy trying to figure out where she was. Carley was a lifeless zombie. Landon literally dragged his lifeless zombie partner to the exile finish line, and finished with a faster time than Luke/Evelyn, eliminating them from FM2.
Landon’s exile performance against Luke/Evelyn might just be his greatest work ever (in an already extremely long laundry list of great work he’s done), but I got it second to his 100 point performance in the final challenge of FM2.
Landon’s final challenge performance on Fresh Meat II is the Challenge’s edition of Wilt’s 100 point game.
In the FM2 final, Landon/Carley faced the powerhouse team of the season, Kenny/Laurel. Kenny is widely considered one of the greatest long distance runners ever and Laurel is the second best female competitor to have ever exist in Challenge history. Landon had to deal with Carley’s deathly poor conditioning for another time for longer, greater distances against an even more elite duo than the one they had overcome in their exile just a few nights before. It was going to be impossible for Landon to win, but he defied all odds once again for one final time.
What Landon did in the Fresh Meat II final is equivalent to scoring a 100 point game in professional basketball. Landon scored 100 points by carrying an 80 pound bag without Carley’s assistance throughout the whole final, completing every checkpoint by himself, and pushing his lifeless anchor of a partner up a mountain to get them to the finish line first before the powerhouse duo of Kenny/Laurel.
Landon’s FM2 final challenge performance, just like Wilt’s 100 will never be topped again. I want to add more to this analogy by saying Landon’s FM2 regular season performance mirrors the greatest scoring season ever in NBA history, also by Wilt Chamberlain. Landon basically was putting up 50 points a game in Challenge terms by having to endure Carley’s W.O.A.T. tier abilities all season, and still winning missions, eliminations and the final at the very end. Landon’s good guy personality allowed him to keep calm, never lose his cool, and be the most encouraging and supportive partner Carley could ever ask for in a show where 90 percent of the people can never keep calm, are always losing their cool, and never ever supportive when they’re paired up with someone terrible.
Put the rest of the Mount Rushmore in Landon’s shoes on Fresh Meat 2. Envision current Jordan, a prime J.B., or a prime C.T. being paired up with the extremely terrible Carley. Jordan - Carley probably quits halfway in the competition because she can no longer tolerate the way Jordan speaks down on her competitive abilities. Assuming she doesn’t quit, Jordan is not strong enough to carry all 150 pounds in the exile all by himself and loses to Luke/Evelyn; plus his puzzle skills aren’t on the level of Landon’s; Bananas - Same as Jordan; C.T. – This one is interesting, because C.T. can easily carry all the exile weight by himself and finish the puzzles, and wins against Luke/Evelyn. However, prime C.T. was a loose cannon. In the small chance he does reach the final, he probably would’ve thrown Carley off the mountain and we would’ve never heard from her again. You get the narrative.
The 100 point final game and averaging 50 points throughout the FM2 season is why I have Landon #1 all-time, because I don’t think Jordan, J.B., or C.T. would have ever accomplished the same. None of these guys, in any version of themselves ever, possessed Landon’s patience and good-hearted personality that would’ve been able to keep Carley’s lifeline alive. This leads to my final point which is: Landon is only ‘total package’ competitor to ever touch Challenge soil; a title Jordan, J.B., and C.T. fall short of.
Landon’s Overall Assessment.
A total package in the Challenge is best described as a competitor who possesses all-time great tier abilities in nearly every element of the Challenge, while also showing no weaknesses. Numbers 2-4 of the Challenge Mount Rushmore come close to qualifying, but fall short for different reasons: Jordan has ATG athleticism, mental strength, strategy, stamina, and swimming. His shaky political game and hand-to-hand combat abilities, however, are a weakness. He also has that whole Free Agents and Total Madness showing; Bananas has ATG strategy and has a good balance in every other area. Although there aren’t any glaring holes in his competitive abilities, only one of them is considered all-time great and that fails to meet the requirement. Plus, we’ve seen some dud performances in his career; C.T. has ATG strength, athleticism, intelligence, eating, and mental strength. But I wouldn’t consider C.T. to have great leadership, he was too much of a hothead in the prime of his career. His long distance running has also shown to be faulty at times.
The rest of the top 10 also fail to qualify: Evan – mental strength was abysmal; Kenny – athleticism, intelligence, and various skills were poor; Darrell – same as Kenny; Derrick – adequate intelligence and smaller size hindered him in weight based eliminations; Mark – competitive killer instinct was missing; Alton – embarrassing mental strength and Battle of the Seasons is one large black hole in his resume.
There were no missing elements to Landon’s game whatsoever. Landon was an all-time great in the following categories: Strength, Athleticism, Intelligence, Leadership, Mental Strength, and Stamina. You can make a strong argument the he was either one of the best or at the very worst, a top 10 challenger in each of those categories. You can’t say that for any other competitor here. Landon being a total package competitor is exactly why he didn’t have to rely on a super intense political-social game to be successful. His competitive performances always kept him at the top of social structures without ever making any enemies. I’d take Landon’s laid back political/social over most guys (including Jordan and J.B., who put a bigger target on themselves and make more enemies). He wasn’t actively cutting deals or moving chess pieces, but people naturally gravitated towards him because of they looked up to him as a competitor and had a great personality. Landon’s career was extremely short in comparison to the J.B. and C.T., but there’s no question in my mind, had he kept doing more challenges, he would’ve went on to have the more successful career.
Along with having the best abilities out of any Challenge player ever, Landon’s accomplishments are praiseworthy enough to call him the Challenge G.O.A.T. He was the best player as a rookie on his first championship team (Inferno II Good Guys), he was the second best player on his second championship team as a sophomore (Gauntlet II Rookies), had the most dominant regular season ever and was one elimination away from winning a championship (Duel II), and has the greatest championship season ever bar none (Fresh Meat II). When you look at the summary of accomplishments in his career, what Landon did in just four seasons holds more G.O.A.T. value than what Johnny did in 20 seasons, C.T. did in seventeen, and Jordan did in seven. That’s why Landon is my #1 pick in an all-time draft of anybody ever in America’s Fifth Sport.
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